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Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by veb »

danielsju6 wrote: post #119
nikolay wrote: post #113

$500/month for 350Mbps! What exactly is Elon been smoking?! Okay, it's mobile... given you have electricity, of course, but if you have electricity, won't you have other options as well?

I pay $700/mn for 200/200mbs fiber, in an rural area where 10/1mbs DSL is the only other option. Seems like it’s competitive to me.

NZ has done the high speed fibre roll out really nicely - this includes small rural towns (1,600 people, 433 people from two rural areas near me) this is gigabit fibre. It costs about $95 NZD a month for 1000Mbps/500Mbps unlimited.

For those who are in the cities (like me), we have access to "hyperfibre" which is like 2Gbps which costs about $150-$200 NZD a month (unlimited).

They've even been trialling 10Gbps! https://company.chorus.co.nz/chorus-supercharges-new-zealand...

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by [deleted] »

martinald wrote: post #84
dougmwne wrote: post #45

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Anyone with a fiber connection available is absolutely not the target market for starlink. It is meant for rural users with few better options. In fact, dense urban or suburban areas would overload the satellites, so subscribers in those areas will need to be limited.

I'm still not 100% convinced on the size of this market. Rural FTTH rollouts are happening and over the next 5-10 years I think will get everywhere you have grid electricity. I constantly see people on the starlink Reddit cancelling their preorders or service because they can get FTTH or cable. There's no doubt it's an amazing technical achievement, and a huge improvement for many people. But I am somewhat struggling…

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Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by bubblethink »

mdasen wrote: post #118
gonehome wrote: post #44

$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…

Why does this seem aimed at the enterprise market (besides the price tag)? From what I've seen, Starlink uses CGNAT (carrier grade network address translation) so it's hard to handle incoming connections (given the lack of a public IP address). CGNAT seems like it would be a problem for enterprise customers. Would this be enterprises in cities where they'd be looking for a backup for a wired connection? I know that a…

Why is CGNAT an issue ? Enterprise here doesn't mean on-prem public facing hosting. It just means rich entity that can afford $500/month per account. It could be anything ranging from a government office to a small business. You just need the ability to connect to your actual servers in AWS or wherever and transfer at acceptable rates and latency.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by mod »

markdown wrote: post #79
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #22

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Unfortunately this is partly due to FCC regulations.

FCC only manages a small portion of the earths surface. They have no say whatsoever in my part of the world.

If the company you use has a presence in their small portion of the Earth's surface, then they probably have some say so.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by fastaguy88 »

joe-collins wrote: post #132
freeopinion wrote: post #83

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The number of people who have a summer home is extremely high. Having two dishes, or one dish that can be used from two set points is very attractive. Lots of people spend the summer "at the cabin" even when the cabin isn't in the Hamptons. Or they may live out of a motor home, but it only moves to travel between their regular winter destination and their regular summer destination. They stay in the same two parks al…

> According to NAHB estimates, the total count of second homes was 7.5 million https://eyeonhousing.org/2020/10/nations-stock-of-second-hom... > The United States had an official resident population of 331,449,281 on April 1, 2020, according to the U.S. Census Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_State... https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data... I'm not saying 7.5M isn'…

I’m guessing most of those summer cabins host at least two people. So maybe 5%.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by unionpivo »

nikolay wrote: post #113

$500/month for 350Mbps! What exactly is Elon been smoking?! Okay, it's mobile... given you have electricity, of course, but if you have electricity, won't you have other options as well?

Nope plenty of land in USA (and some other developing nations.) , where slow phone lines or not even that is an option.

Maybe you have an ISP and want a backup, or maybe you have limited bandwidth and want more, etc.

This thing is also mobile. Maybe you are touring show/band/tradeshows and sometimes venue provided internet is crap and want a backup.

Or maybe you are youtube/regular TV show inspired by mythbusters , that needs to go to desert/exotic locale to test/blow something up.

And even where there is an options its sometimes really bad and expensive.

This probably won't set world on fire, but I see it quite useful to number of companies.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by lotsofpulp »

BugWatch wrote: post #123
freeopinion wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of people who have a summer home is extremely high. Having two dishes, or one dish that can be used from two set points is very attractive. Lots of people spend the summer "at the cabin" even when the cabin isn't in the Hamptons. Or they may live out of a motor home, but it only moves to travel between their regular winter destination and their regular summer destination. They stay in the same two parks al…

Off topic, but thank you for the "USians" part (I've been using "US-'icans" for years).

Has “American” gone out of style?

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by joe-collins »

fastaguy88 wrote: post #145
joe-collins wrote: post #132

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> According to NAHB estimates, the total count of second homes was 7.5 million https://eyeonhousing.org/2020/10/nations-stock-of-second-hom... > The United States had an official resident population of 331,449,281 on April 1, 2020, according to the U.S. Census Bureau https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_State... https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/decennial/2020/data... I'm not saying 7.5M isn'…

I’m guessing most of those summer cabins host at least two people. So maybe 5%.

The numbers are 14 years older, but this report offers a more specific breakdown of the type of second home. Only ~40% of second homes are seasonal.

https://www.huduser.gov/periodicals/ushmc/spring2004/article...

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by dboreham »

olyjohn wrote: post #25
systemvoltage wrote: post #10

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> Almost seems designed to get people's hopes up only to squash them again. What people have been asking for is an RV/camping/sailing Starlink they can use moving, and that product has yet to materialize. What an odd comment. Seems like a narrow way to blame the marketing. And, a narrow way to cherry pick what doesn't fit your description of what Starlink should be and shouldn't be. In truth, Starlink is an absolute…

It's never gonna work for camping anyways, unless you like to camp in an open field. Trees are the weak spot for Starlink, and even on my 2 acre plot, I could almost not find any clearings free of obstructions. I have a few 40+ foot trees and even though I was over 150 feet away from them, my signal was still getting obstructed.

This really isn't true in my experience. I live in a forest, on the side of a mountain. I have dishy at ground level on the edge on my small parking area and it works just fine.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by mod »

scotty79 wrote: post #69
thaumasiotes wrote: post #67

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> SpaceX rocket stage will accidentally hit the Moon and will become first billionaire made garbage/pollution there. There is nothing living on the moon; what would "pollution" mean in this context?

Garbage then. I'm not a native speaker. Does something need to harm a living being to be considered pollution?

Your sentence made sense originally, imo. I might have written the same sentence

Native speaker here.

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