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Re: Starlink Premium

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$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…

It cost them around $1500 to manufacture.

Re: Starlink Premium

#72
post #25

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It's never gonna work for camping anyways, unless you like to camp in an open field. Trees are the weak spot for Starlink, and even on my 2 acre plot, I could almost not find any clearings free of obstructions. I have a few 40+ foot trees and even though I was over 150 feet away from them, my signal was still getting obstructed.

Can you not install it on a rooftop? Guaranteed clear view of the sky.

Not who you're responding to, however a rooftop definitely doesn't guarantee clear views of the sky. I have solar pool heating on my roof, it works great, however Starlink requires 100 degrees field of view. That's a lot! There's definitely no such location on my 1.25 acre property. Even if you chopped down every single tree in my yard (not legal) there still wouldn't be 100 degree field of view due to trees in the neighbours yard.

EDIT: To clarify as to why the roof doesn't work, the trees are at least 4 times the height of my roof.

Re: Starlink Premium

#73
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Of course it’s not for you. It’s not for people with dedicated gigabit fiber lines. This should be pretty obvious.

Well, it wasn't for me - somehow I managed to avoid whole thing till now.

Then I guess you also missed that their normal plan is $100?

Re: Starlink Premium

#74
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's never gonna work for camping anyways, unless you like to camp in an open field. Trees are the weak spot for Starlink, and even on my 2 acre plot, I could almost not find any clearings free of obstructions. I have a few 40+ foot trees and even though I was over 150 feet away from them, my signal was still getting obstructed.

Can you not install it on a rooftop? Guaranteed clear view of the sky.

Not if there are 100 foot trees around you.

Re: Starlink Premium

#75

Are we not concerned about Kessler syndrome anymore so that we think that hastily doubling the amount of satellites around there is a good idea? The news came in that SpaceX rocket stage will accidentally hit the Moon and will become first billionaire made garbage/pollution there. Are we sure we trust this company with not devastating low earth orbit due to some accidents? And for what? For expensive mediocre interne…

No, cause Elon is obsessed with Mars, and a Kessler cascade would make it that much harder to set up a Mars base, so even just from a totally self-serving angle, Elon has a high prerogative to avoid space collisions.

Not to mention it would be terrible for SpaceX business on a far shorter timescale.

If there's one thing you can count on, it's that billionaires will defend their bottom line.

Re: Starlink Premium

#76

$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…

> The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture

$3k? Were they mining the metal by hand and then using only the most hipster blacksmiths shipped in from Portland to hand press the steel for the dish?

Re: Starlink Premium

#77
My understanding is that the Starlink antenna uses a phased array allowing some electronic steering and that it has motors for physically steering it. The physical steering is just done at setup time to point the antenna in the right general direction for your location and the the phased array is used for actually tracking satellites.

A back of the envelope calculation tells me that when they have all their satellites deployed any given service location will have several hundred satellites visible at any one time.

Question: does a given customer's connection just use one satellite at a time, tracking it with the phased array until it moves too far and then switching to another? Or does it use more than one at a time in parallel?

Re: Starlink Premium

#78

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> Almost seems designed to get people's hopes up only to squash them again. What people have been asking for is an RV/camping/sailing Starlink they can use moving, and that product has yet to materialize. What an odd comment. Seems like a narrow way to blame the marketing. And, a narrow way to cherry pick what doesn't fit your description of what Starlink should be and shouldn't be. In truth, Starlink is an absolute…

The actual competition: https://www.hughesnet.com/get-started

note 500ms ping. That's pretty much unusable for calls, games, or just loading pages.

Re: Starlink Premium

#79
post #15

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I read the current Starlink system has a limitation where if you move outside of your assigned service "cell", you lose service. Guessing this is still the case.

Unfortunately this is partly due to FCC regulations.

FCC only manages a small portion of the earths surface. They have no say whatsoever in my part of the world.
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