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Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by geerlingguy »

wmf wrote: post #95
kortex wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, cause Elon is obsessed with Mars, and a Kessler cascade would make it that much harder to set up a Mars base, so even just from a totally self-serving angle, Elon has a high prerogative to avoid space collisions. Not to mention it would be terrible for SpaceX business on a far shorter timescale. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that billionaires will defend their bottom line.

This makes me wonder if Elon uses FSD or if he values his life more than that.

In an interview last year (forget with who, maybe Jay Leno?), Elon gave the entire interview while his Tesla was driving them around. I'm guessing he puts a lot of faith into it. Though he probably only drives around areas that are pretty well tested in Teslas already.

Re: Starlink Premium

#102

Post by shmerl »

joseloyaio wrote: post #93
shmerl wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would FCC add such limitations?

Surveillance & Monopoly Protection If people stopped using cellphone service for mobile internet they would loose their immense location and surveillance capabilities (gov).

Do they have authority to impose such limitations? It sounds very overreaching.

What makes more sense is probably Starlink trying to prevent uneven network load.

Re: Starlink Premium

#103

Post by _joel »

bpodgursky wrote: post #62
pcl wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you doing that demands more than 40 mbps?

Personally, pushing docker images to AWS

You're constantly pushing to ECR so much that it saturates a 40Mbps+ upload consistently 24/7? I fear for your bills, god speed.

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by gonehome »

gkhartman wrote: post #97
gonehome wrote: post #44

$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…

I was nodding along until I got to the $500/mo. service charge. I'd feel pretty good about $150/mo. or $200/mo., but I guess I'm not their target market since I have decent wired broadband. I was hoping that this would give Spectrum some competition in our area, but I'll have to wait a little longer.

The regular dish is great for normal personal use already in remote areas (and the costs are very reasonable).

It’s not competitive in (most) areas with options from cable providers, but that’s also not its purpose.

Starlink will give us high speed low latency internet anywhere on earth, it moves the lower bound up to 150mbps with pretty low latency which is great.

Re: Starlink Premium

#107

Post by nickvanw »

gkhartman wrote: post #97
gonehome wrote: post #44

$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…

I was nodding along until I got to the $500/mo. service charge. I'd feel pretty good about $150/mo. or $200/mo., but I guess I'm not their target market since I have decent wired broadband. I was hoping that this would give Spectrum some competition in our area, but I'll have to wait a little longer.

Starlink won't really ever be designed to compete with wired internet. There is limited bandwidth per satellite, and the density of most places that have good wired internet far exceeds what is reasonable on the current generation of satellites.

It's designed for people who are currently suffering on geostationary satellite internet, or some other low-bandwidth/high-latency setup.

Re: Starlink Premium

#108

Post by _joel »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #22
jtl999 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the current Starlink system has a limitation where if you move outside of your assigned service "cell", you lose service. Guessing this is still the case.

Unfortunately this is partly due to FCC regulations.

Eh, really? It's due to needing ground station visibilty for the consumers as there's no intra satellite routing links, I thought and they didn't want to swamp the contention ratio whilst they were in beta? Why would the FCC be stopping this?

Re: Starlink Premium

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Post by senectus1 »

jtl999 wrote: post #15
Someone1234 wrote: post #6

The: > UNLIMITED SERVICE LOCATIONS Almost seems designed to get people's hopes up only to squash them again. What people have been asking for is an RV/camping/sailing Starlink they can use moving, and that product has yet to materialize. Announcing that: > Order as many Starlinks as needed and manage all of your service locations, no matter how remote, from a single account. Is niche, and is only going to confuse peo…

I read the current Starlink system has a limitation where if you move outside of your assigned service "cell", you lose service. Guessing this is still the case.

provided you're happy enough to buy multiple dishes, this fixes that.

one account, multiple dishes.

Re: Starlink Premium

#110

Post by xiphias2 »

Terretta wrote: post #81
xiphias2 wrote: post #63

Tesla did the same ,,strategy'' when it couldn't deliver the $35k car, as scaling was too optimistic: get a premium version with much higher margins and make people buy that. There are lots of people for whom $500 is worth a great internet, as it helps them deliiver work significantly more work value.

I pre-paid Starlink for delivery last Spring and it never materialized. And see similar comments here from others on never yet receiving it after long waits. So you may be onto something.

Elon had a letter in December that to be able to make money on Starlink, they have to launch Starship first....I guess he realized that it's easier to raise prices.
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