Any ideas why this is $500/mo?
My gigabit symmetric fiber at home is $70/mo. The same service from the same provider costs $400/mo at our office. The answer to your question seems to be "because business".
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately this is partly due to FCC regulations.
Why would FCC add such limitations?
Surveillance & Monopoly Protection
If people stopped using cellphone service for mobile internet they would loose their immense location and surveillance capabilities (gov).
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#94In 2020 they took my $99 deposit and told me I'd have service in the Summer of 2021. Then at the end of 2021 they sent an email saying that nope, it will be sometime in 2023. Now, this says I might get it this year if I pay an unaffordable price. Frustrating, since this is the only opportunity on the horizon for more than my current 10 MiB DSL, and I live online. Please Starlink, stop making new promises and shoving…
Thanks for sharing your experience. They've only just started taking pre-orders for my location with a promise of '23 delivery.
Based on what you've just written, I think I'll just wait and sign up after they launch here.
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#95Are we not concerned about Kessler syndrome anymore so that we think that hastily doubling the amount of satellites around there is a good idea? The news came in that SpaceX rocket stage will accidentally hit the Moon and will become first billionaire made garbage/pollution there. Are we sure we trust this company with not devastating low earth orbit due to some accidents? And for what? For expensive mediocre interne…
No, cause Elon is obsessed with Mars, and a Kessler cascade would make it that much harder to set up a Mars base, so even just from a totally self-serving angle, Elon has a high prerogative to avoid space collisions. Not to mention it would be terrible for SpaceX business on a far shorter timescale. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that billionaires will defend their bottom line.
This makes me wonder if Elon uses FSD or if he values his life more than that.
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#96What are the upload speeds? Can't seem to find them.
In the image on their site, it shows 25 Mbps up, so I wouldn't expect much more.
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#97$500 deposit, $2500 total cost for the dish, $500/mo for the service. Looks like it's targeting the enterprise market. The dish cost is probably closer to the actual value of the dish. The original dish we bought for $500 I think I read actually cost closer to $3k for them to manufacture (I'm not an expert on this)? Regular service is $500 for a dish and $99 a month which is a great deal for 50-200mbps at pretty low…
I was nodding along until I got to the $500/mo. service charge. I'd feel pretty good about $150/mo. or $200/mo., but I guess I'm not their target market since I have decent wired broadband. I was hoping that this would give Spectrum some competition in our area, but I'll have to wait a little longer.
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#98Are we not concerned about Kessler syndrome anymore so that we think that hastily doubling the amount of satellites around there is a good idea? The news came in that SpaceX rocket stage will accidentally hit the Moon and will become first billionaire made garbage/pollution there. Are we sure we trust this company with not devastating low earth orbit due to some accidents? And for what? For expensive mediocre interne…
The orbit's low enough that no, not really.
> And for what? For expensive mediocre internet for limited number of users in places where infrastructure is lacking? Infrastructure? You know, the thing we should build more of, that serves poor people? Those people that limited expensive mediocre toys don't serve?
Huh? Internet service is infrastructure.
There are lots of people in rural areas that don't have proper service. The goal is to get them service, by whatever method is most effective. And in lots of areas, starlink is more effective than running wires.
So why shouldn't we use starlink for those people? It's nonsense to balk at the price if you're suggesting we do something even more expensive. If the price is too high then we can apply subsidies to it. Instead of applying those subsidies to offerings that are worse.
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Because it needs to repeat messages more till you get a clear message through
Not sure about that? In a UDP based ping it's fire and forget so wouldn't repeat, so would show as packet loss not increased latency. Unless the physical layer is using more FEC and using longer "timeslots" to get to transmit the payload. But even that seems unlikely to cause major latency increases?
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#100Tesla did the same ,,strategy'' when it couldn't deliver the $35k car, as scaling was too optimistic: get a premium version with much higher margins and make people buy that. There are lots of people for whom $500 is worth a great internet, as it helps them deliiver work significantly more work value.
I pre-paid Starlink for delivery last Spring and it never materialized. And see similar comments here from others on never yet receiving it after long waits. So you may be onto something.
I pre-paid at the start of last year and it materialised before Christmas, here in the UK. Friends got it 6 months before me, for pre-ordering a few of months earlier on the beta.
Perhaps your cell was full, but that doesn't excuse the customer service.