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Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Got a source for that? I searched around and couldn't find anything with him saying that.

https://youtu.be/dmvZBiWYkFQ?t=242 “I want to bring my little son along on this ride, but obviously that’s not where we’re at today.” edit: Fixed link

Either you posted the wrong link, or your link was taken down within the last 20 minutes...

Lots of Cruise employees in this thread.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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They are betting that hardware combination is the fastest to market, given the constraints of today software. When the ml stack is capable of leveraging purely camera sensors, Cruise and others like them, own the fleet and can swap out the hardware. Tesla does not "own" the fleet per se. So perhaps its different bets on which cars will still be on the road when the ML threshold is crossed.

Tesla has really fallen behind. I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4.

> I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4.

Ah so Karpathy will be fired this year. Because they're not reaching L4. FSD isn't even L3 yet.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla has really fallen behind. I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4.

> I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4. Ah so Karpathy will be fired this year. Because they're not reaching L4. FSD isn't even L3 yet.

“I would be shocked if we do not achieve Full Self-Driving safer than human this year. I would be shocked.”

-- Elon Musk

He set the milestone.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…

Cruise CEO here. Our strategy has been to solve the challenges needed to operate driverless robotaxis on a well-equipped vehicle, then aggressively drive the cost down. Many OEMs are doing this in reverse order. They're trying to squeeze orders of magnitude of performance gains out of really low-cost hardware. Today it's unclear what strategy will win. In a few years our next generation of low-cost compute and sensin…

It's good to hear a CEO say "we don't know the answer, but we're making a bet" rather than the typical Elizabeth Holmes style "We are absolutely correct and first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you get convicted of three counts of wire fraud and go to prison".

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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post #93
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Based on this image: https://images.ctfassets.net/95kuvdv8zn1v/6h1C7lPC79OLOlddEE... They and their VC backers are clearly betting on the concept that radars + lidar + imaging will be the ultimate successful solution in full self driving cars, as a completely opposite design and engineering philosophy from Tesla attempting to do "full self driving" with camera sensors and categorical rejection of lidar. It is interes…

Cruise CEO here. Our strategy has been to solve the challenges needed to operate driverless robotaxis on a well-equipped vehicle, then aggressively drive the cost down. Many OEMs are doing this in reverse order. They're trying to squeeze orders of magnitude of performance gains out of really low-cost hardware. Today it's unclear what strategy will win. In a few years our next generation of low-cost compute and sensin…

Thank you for sharing! Sharing details on how your system works brings confidence to customers...

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4. Ah so Karpathy will be fired this year. Because they're not reaching L4. FSD isn't even L3 yet.

“I would be shocked if we do not achieve Full Self-Driving safer than human this year. I would be shocked.” -- Elon Musk He set the milestone.

He told investors the same thing last year. Elon milestones mean nothing.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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The Cruise CEO is here, along with many grand stories of how good/safe their vehicles are. I can’t help but think this thread may be a marketing ploy. If this were the case, is it allowed on HN? Edit: In addition, any negative/challenging/sceptical comment is quickly downvoted.

As someone unaffiliated, I really like that their CEO is here answering questions.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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I got hired for my dream job at Cruise, and then was offered near-as-makes-no-difference 3x the TC to work with a friend a week later. I basically completed the new-hire onboarding and then quit. It fucking hurt to do that. What I saw there made me a believer. Cruise is doing amazing shit.

I need friends like yours. Damn.

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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> I think Karpathy will be fired this year if his team can't achieve at least L4. Ah so Karpathy will be fired this year. Because they're not reaching L4. FSD isn't even L3 yet.

“I would be shocked if we do not achieve Full Self-Driving safer than human this year. I would be shocked.” -- Elon Musk He set the milestone.

He's said that every year since 2014: https://futurism.com/video-elon-musk-promising-self-driving-...

Re: Cruise is opening driverless cars to the public in San Francisco

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What is the benefit of a taxi being driverless, for the passenger? Is it cheaper?

Cheaper, you don’t have to tip (in the USA where that is required), availability (driver doesn’t need to sleep), and safety (you don’t have to worry about your driver trying to cheat or rob you). People aren’t getting cheaper. Indeed, this pandemic is showing us just how fragile the labor market is and automation that was too expensive to consider before (like fry robots at caliburger) are now very reasonable upgrade…

Where are Uber drivers considered full time employees?
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