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Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by rdtwo »

el-salvador wrote: post #573
starwind wrote: post #330

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I looked at new Audi’s last year, and my main thing was I want physical gauges on the dashboard. The sales guy looked at me like I was from Mars and then showed me the stripped versions (which were, I gotta say, pretty nice) I wonder how much all the screens have contributed to the increase in accidents in the last couple years

I went to buy a TV a couple of years ago, and I think I got that same look from the sales guy when I said I didnt want a "smart TV".

Yeah good luck you gotta pay double for that feature

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by prometheus76 »

I sold my 1973 Chevy pickup to my brother last year and I have missed it every day since. It was as simple as possible to operate, simple to work on, and all the parts were extremely inexpensive because there weren't any computers or silicon or algorithms involved.

I did upgrade the distributor to be an HEI, but that's about as "high-tech" as it needed to be.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by Notanothertoo »

QuarterReptile wrote: post #620
pxmpxm wrote: post #588

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Points like the above is pretty much why these sorts of ideas are a dead end in a place with disposable income. If you objectively think that riding a bicycle with two sets of clothes on your back in the dead of winter is as convenient as driving, you've are either delusional or have never actually been inside of an automobile.

They're also dead ends where you already assume one car per adult. Dropping below that number is intimidating in most American settings, but changes the whole mindset. If you objectively see convenience in spending 50k on a car, 30k on a parking spot, and 100/mo for insurance just to be able to pay other marginal costs to be able to go to a store and avoid exercise in the morning, you're either delusional or have nev…

I've never paid anywhere close to that. Virtually no parking expenses, and I've had 3 reliable vehicles all have been around 12-15k and I've gotten 5-8 years out of them with a couple major repairs. Also the grocery store is very far away and dangerous to bike towards, and I would have to rig my bike for storage. American stores are also geared for bulk larger purchases and you save a substantial amount of money, and even if you for simple things like toilet paper or paper towels.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by sschueller »

breakpointalpha wrote: post #193

Bought a Mazda CX5 a few months ago. Thank god Mazda currently has the "driver first" mentality. NO Touchscreen! Main input is through a comfortable knob in front of the arm rest, where your hand naturally lands when resting. Gauge cluster is digital, but analog type dials for spedo, etc. AC, Power Cool/heated seats, driver assists, auto-park, all controlled via BUTTONS! It's a modern miracle and one of the big reaso…

If you are thinking of buying the Porsche Tycan get the Audi e-Tron GT instead. It's the same platform but has way more physical buttons and switches unlike the Porsche which want mostly touch screen.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by HNSucksAss »

ctf1er wrote: post #591
culopatin wrote: post #531

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Are you saying that you’re watching 4K video from your rear view camera in a 1.5in screen or it’s a dash cam?

Yeah it's a dashcam, records 4k in the front, and 2.5k the rear camera. I'm sure the screen is much less, but looks great on my tv.

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Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by zht »

julianz wrote: post #387
zepto wrote: post #372

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My 2012 volvo has a reasonably large LCD that is used for the backup camera, and infotainment etc. However, I have it set to screen saver mode, and it is completely powered down until I put the car in reverse. It also wakes for certain things like displaying the temperature if I change it with the real knobs. The Speedometer and Rev counter are physical needles. Newer models have replaced these with a central LCD, wh…

Yep, my 2009 Volvo has a popup screen that can be pushed down into the dash. I like it because I almost never use the reversing camera, but on the rare occasion I want to it's available. The rest of the car is all physical controls.

are you not worried about running over small children?

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by rsolva »

I have my eyes set on the german electric car, Sion. It's the closest match I have found to my Toyota Corolla Verso (2006), which have no smart functions, no displays — just a safe and extremely functional car.

Sion is reasonably priced (sub €30k), seems to have just the right amount of technology, is spacious and has a decent battery pack (~300km range). Production starts next year. Oh, and it has integrated solar panels, which is a nice bonus!

https://sonomotors.com/en/sion/

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by alfalfasprout »

sinab wrote: post #440

What I hate about "car discourse" like this is the apparent blindness to public transportation. Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars solve almost every problem that the author complains about. The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. Those who suggest alternative modes of public transportation are immediately written off as "impracti…

This is a very urban-centric point of view though. A large portion of the US doesn't live in cities. In more rural and many suburban areas biking/trains simply aren't viable.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by alfalfasprout »

temporallobe wrote: post #408
Johnny555 wrote: post #256

I don't mind having a smart car, in fact, I like most of the "smart" features - lane centering, adaptive cruise, emergency braking, TPMS, lane change cameras, auto headlights, auto wipers, etc. But I want buttons and knobs for everything I use while driving. I probably wouldn't pay extra for built-in navigation (it generally comes with other options that I do want), but I've found it useful a few times when I was out…

Mercedes and Mazda have this in many of their models - mechanical rotary dials and real buttons for common controls.

No, now they have this overly complicated wheel that's arguably worse than a touchscreen.
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