I think requiring a starter comment for submissions would be helpful and up the quality of submissions. Not sure if HN has ever tried that?
Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
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Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#52I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…
There's simply too many things being submitted. Hundred items per hour. Some people treat HN as a bookmark engine or something like that and submit way too much, others self-promote/spam heavily etc. I noticed often things make it to top of HN after buzzing on Twitter for few hours; perhaps people on HN seeing stuff they already saw on Twitter are more likely to quickly upvote it without reading which lifts it to fro…
Which users have you noticed ending up on front page regularly?
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#53I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…
There's simply too many things being submitted. Hundred items per hour. Some people treat HN as a bookmark engine or something like that and submit way too much, others self-promote/spam heavily etc. I noticed often things make it to top of HN after buzzing on Twitter for few hours; perhaps people on HN seeing stuff they already saw on Twitter are more likely to quickly upvote it without reading which lifts it to fro…
Some people simply submit a ton of stuff that could be interesting (looking at you tosh [https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=tosh], who seems to average like 5 submissions/day). I'm also confident that the more time you spend around here, the more you learn about what kind of content HN would like and submit it only if you think it has a chance here. I read a lot of different things during the day, but only half of those things are even worthy of a HN submit, while half of those half would actually have a chance of getting upvoted.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#54Enough people visit the newest page such that that around 80% of the good stuff makes it to the front page, and about 5% of the bad stuff makes it (and then is quickly flagged to death). I think it's working fine as things are now. Our information is imperfect enough as it is, even before taking into account the huge number of people trying to game the system to get their ph3r0mones to reach the front page (seriously…
I would say some really good stuff makes it among that flagged to death stuff that unfortunately is not among the things that HN does well.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#55Enough people visit the newest page such that that around 80% of the good stuff makes it to the front page, and about 5% of the bad stuff makes it (and then is quickly flagged to death). I think it's working fine as things are now. Our information is imperfect enough as it is, even before taking into account the huge number of people trying to game the system to get their ph3r0mones to reach the front page (seriously…
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#56I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…
I expected you to have submitted around 100 links without any of them getting traction, but you have submitted three, and complaining that none of them hit the frontpage? HN might be a small place compared to many other social media, but it's not that small, countless of links are submitted every day, and yes, it's not simple to get a story to the frontpage but it's not that hard if it's interesting either. It also d…
Out of the 30 I would also think 5 of them which got 1 or 2 votes each were lower quality submissions - of less interest although still suitable - for example this one "Science Fiction Is Never Evenly Distributed" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30085327 or "Literature-clock: Clock using time quotes from literature" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30044179
many of those that didn't get any uptake I thought were pretty great - like this one "Marie Boulanger on the nostalgic power of typography in The French Dispatch" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30130297
There was one that got 52 points that I wondered - should I post this - "Getting to Know the Armed, the Most Unknowable Band in Hardcore" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30082588
In short - HN Submissions sure are a land of contrasts.
on edit: In fact as a general rule it seems the ones of mine that get any significant uptake are because they were added to the second chance pool, not sure if maybe being in Denmark I post during disadvantaged times of the day or something, but that is my general feeling.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I could suggest one concession in that a native dark mode be possible as an option.
FYI Chrome Canary has a "dark mode for websites" in incubator. It allows you to darken every website. On mobile it works very well on HN; the desktop exp doesn't have UI affordances yet though. It's also in stable (incl. forks like Brave) behind chrome://flags -> search "dark"
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's simply too many things being submitted. Hundred items per hour. Some people treat HN as a bookmark engine or something like that and submit way too much, others self-promote/spam heavily etc. I noticed often things make it to top of HN after buzzing on Twitter for few hours; perhaps people on HN seeing stuff they already saw on Twitter are more likely to quickly upvote it without reading which lifts it to fro…
I've never noticed this. Which users have you noticed ending up on front page regularly?
64k karma in 2 years
Checking current front page... Yep there's one from him :)
Not every submission gets to page 1 but since he posts several links per day, at least a few each week get there.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh, I thought HN actually prevented you from resubmitting the same URL for a certain period of time (at least a few weeks). I always thought people added some query parameter or something to get around that restriction to resubmit.
Not if other people resubmit them.
I guess I could try it with different ages if you want.