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I almost have a different issue. I feel like I miss big news here, even though I check in multiple times a day. When using the "past" menu item, there's stuff on top there I never saw on top on HN. Does thing stay shorter on top than they did before? Didn't feel it was such a problem a few years back.
This is obviously a bit convoluted and not really hashed out, but I got curious how the incentive scheme might look like.
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In contrast to /asknew which is almost spam-free. Since /asknew was introduced about half a year ago (?) I have the feeling 'Ask HN' posts do reach more often the front page. This might back up your point because people seem to go to /asknew (and leaving an upvote/comment there) more often (less spammy experience).
It might be the luck of the draw but I see four pre-deaded comments in /asknew now vs five in /newest. It looks about the same, again, with the caveat it might just be a coincidence. I'll also admit I'm an unrepentant, flaming hater of Ask HN, its parents, its parents' friends and the people who owe them money.
Also, if you don't mind, I'd be interested to hear what you have to bring against the 'Ask HN' format :) (Edit: I don't expect a long paragraph, but maybe you could indicate a general direction)
Enough people visit the newest page such that that around 80% of the good stuff makes it to the front page, and about 5% of the bad stuff makes it (and then is quickly flagged to death). I think it's working fine as things are now. Our information is imperfect enough as it is, even before taking into account the huge number of people trying to game the system to get their ph3r0mones to reach the front page (seriously…
Also generally there isn't as much hate on resubmissions/repost as for instance in reddit. So you can simple repost if you feel that you didn't submit it at the right day of the week, timezone peak time, etc.
I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…
I noticed often things make it to top of HN after buzzing on Twitter for few hours; perhaps people on HN seeing stuff they already saw on Twitter are more likely to quickly upvote it without reading which lifts it to front page.
However there are a few users whose submissions I see each day on front page and I wonder how they do this.
Rather not, I like NH as it is. I do not want to get notified upon reactions, I do not want to be fed the latest, I do not want emotes wilder then :) What makes this site so compelling is the quality replies & discussions and the lack of anything blinking and shiny. Source: old man.
If I could suggest one concession in that a native dark mode be possible as an option.
It's also in stable (incl. forks like Brave) behind chrome://flags -> search "dark"
I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…
That's how it works now. For example, I just submitted the URL for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30160524, and now it's on 2 points with no 'upvote' button next to the link for me.