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Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

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Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#23
I thought HN randomly pushed new submissions to the front page for random users, and measures how many votes they get before deciding whether to put them onto the home page for more people. There was a post about the mechanism recently. (It's why getting friends to upvote your new submissions doesn't front-page them, as those votes are ignored).

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#24
post #12

I often come to HN for the discussions, not for the links themselves, and unfortunately that's something missing in "New". It happens quite often that the submission itself is not terribly interesting (e.g. a blog post ranting about some database engine), but nonetheless it spawns a fascinating discussion, filled with first-hand anecdotes and other insights. So when I browser "New" I usually upvote submissions that h…

Same here. I come to HN to sense the heartbeat of the industry. What are the opinions, the controversies, the trends, the public sentiment. It's not even the technicalities that interest me herer.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#26
Rather not, I like NH as it is. I do not want to get notified upon reactions, I do not want to be fed the latest, I do not want emotes wilder then :)

What makes this site so compelling is the quality replies & discussions and the lack of anything blinking and shiny.

Source: old man.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#27

Rather not, I like NH as it is. I do not want to get notified upon reactions, I do not want to be fed the latest, I do not want emotes wilder then :) What makes this site so compelling is the quality replies & discussions and the lack of anything blinking and shiny. Source: old man.

If I could suggest one concession in that a native dark mode be possible as an option.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#28
I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the new section in the few minutes it will be on there. After that it's gone.

One interesting enhancement that would help with that and that also addresses the problem of duplicates is to simply count duplicate link submissions as an upvote on the original. Most popular links have numerous duplicates before and after that did not make it. Some links actually make it to the front page multiple times.

So use the link as a Unique Resource Locator and treat them like the ids they are.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#29

I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…

> One interesting enhancement that would help with that and that also addresses the problem of duplicates is to simply count duplicate link submissions as an upvote on the original.

It does, for a time (a few hours?) after the original submission.

But when you repost a link two hours later on a submission that didn't get any traction, that upvote is meaningless and a new submission with a new chance of traction might have been better.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN users be incentivized to use/visit newest submissions?

#30

I've never succeeded in getting even a single upvote on links I submit. I've stopped bothering, there seems to be no point. It's not the quality of the links either. It just doesn't have a high chance of getting through. I've actually seen links that I submitted land to the front page a day or so later when somebody else resubmitted them. You basically need to get lucky with the right people actually looking at the n…

Huh, I thought HN actually prevented you from resubmitting the same URL for a certain period of time (at least a few weeks).

I always thought people added some query parameter or something to get around that restriction to resubmit.

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