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Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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Use the Vanced app. It's ad free youtube Edit: https://vancedapp.com/

I use NewPipe.

I don't use YouTube at all :P well once in a blue moon but I try to avoid it.

Though it's just that I don't like the video format in general. If there was an ethical decentralised platform I probably wouldn't use it either.

However the way video has been centralised online is a big problem IMO. Imagine if every blog you read you could only get through Google.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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If Google priced Premium to replace the very small revenue they must receive for adverts (at least for the small amount I use YouTube), that would be one thing. But they're asking for a lot more.

Two parents w 6 Google logins between them (2 personal, 4 work entities) and 4 kids, each w a personal and school account. This would require 14 YouTube Premium accounts. Um...no.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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Also, isn't Vanced closed-source? I find the people behind it slightly sketchy.

It's YouTube reverse engineered so it seems a bit difficult to open source something like that

Newpipe is also youtube reverse engineered, as is yt-dl/dlp. No need for closed source.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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> But will "Manifest V3" tip things back to unbearable? We'll see. Switch to Firefox now before Firefox market share dips to the level where publishers can justify not supporting it and you're stuck with only crippled adblocking forever?

If a browser doesn't render the web properly, that's the browser's fault, not the web's.

No, you don't WANT to see the web rendered "properly" (with all the ads). The browser+adblocker do the best they can to render the usably rather than "properly". The issue is that it may become impossible to render usably.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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It's YouTube reverse engineered so it seems a bit difficult to open source something like that

Newpipe is also youtube reverse engineered, as is yt-dl/dlp. No need for closed source.

Vanced is a patched official youtube app.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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Youtube, especially, turns into a whole different experience. Ad in front of every video makes it impossible to quickly browse and sort through videos. I might watch just a few seconds and then go to the next one. When ads are enabled, the experience is so painful that I'm not likely to use Youtube this way any more. I have to watch an ad before I've made the decision if I want to watch the video.

Well, you can buy YouTube premium and have no ads.

Pay money to have the exact same thing you could get easier and for free.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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This has to be the most unpopular opinion so far I have a few questions for you 1. How long have you been doing this ? 2. What do you think of other (not just monetization) ways ads are bad as in bloating the web, privacy and security issues ? 3. What if you truly need to access a website but it has too many ads ? You give up ? Use adblock ? Continue with ads ?

Not the parent, but I've been doing the same thing. For maybe a slightly different reason. 1. Since the 90s. 2. Needs to be solved by user agents. Ad blockers generally work by host name or css selector. This doesn't filter out any of the bad guys that are really trying. 3. Continue with ads I guess. This doesn't actually happen in real life as far as I can tell. The reason I don't use an ad blocker is that I like be…

"Prevalence of ad blockers creates an incentive to do canvas rendering based on a DRM-obfuscated data blob. That's worse for everyone."

Next gen ad blocker will be a headless web browser in a data center to capture the canvas, plus automated video editing to remove the ads.

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it is abuse, all non requested & for-profit message is abuse.

It is not abuse. You are using the platform, the platform is monetized through ads. You requested it when you agreed to view any content on their platform.

Implied contracts are not a thing.

Re: Adblocking people and non-adblocking people experience a different web

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It also provided some incentive for creators to edit and post video. I had a problem that I figured out the solution to and put up a video of it that made me a few dollars a month. Then YouTube moved the goalposts and demonetized it because I don’t (and frankly, won’t) have 1000 subscribers. So that’s the end of my video posting on YouTube. I’ve discovered some “hack” repairs to other devices (common washing machine…

Please share your knowledge, if you don’t expect to have 1000 subscribers surely you wouldn’t expect revenue anyway. Maybe a better approach would be to encourage ‘buy me a coffee’ donations. Either way, you’re punishing society for google being an asshole.

I don’t expect (and didn’t get) subscribers because I just solve the problem. I’m not entertaining enough for you to continue watching the next video on a thing you probably don’t own.

Most likely outcome will be me posting videos on some alternative video platform. Looking at rumble.com

(I wish Amazon got into hosting videos like this, being at the place to buy seems the best place if you fail to fix).

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