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Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by vel0city »

noduerme wrote: post #72
Isinlor wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He does not have good lobbyists. Have you seen Tesla being the only company not invited on electric car day in white house? https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a37244461/elon-musk... Do you know that Tesla will be excluded from tax credits for EVs? https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/29/energy-secretary-defends-tes... Do you know that Texas where Tesla is building its next factory does not allow to sell Teslas? https:/…

Eh, he just needs to touch up his PR when it comes to labor relations. > Do you know that Texas where Tesla is building its next factory does not allow to sell Teslas? You think you can't buy a Tesla in Texas? What planet are you on?

> What planet are you on?

Uhh, Texas?

You cannot buy a Tesla in Texas. Technically speaking, the transaction happens out of state and the car is shipped to you in Texas. Legally speaking Tesla has never sold a car in Texas. They have Tesla "galleries" where you can look at cars, take test drives, customize your order, and they'll help with the paperwork for you to buy it out of state.

I don't think Texas is alone in their dealer franchise laws.

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Post by distortedsignal »

> Backup cameras are one thing people may not want to go without (and indeed may be required in some cases) — but you’d be surprised how informative a basic proximity beeper is.

I think that backup cameras are required in US cars post-April-2018 [1]. I think that's how manufacturers justify getting a screen on the dashboard. Every other (bad) decision is just "let's make the software do _this thing_" and the feature creep leads to terrible UI/UX.

[1] https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/driver-assistance-technologi...

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Post by mdavidn »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #293
mdavidn wrote: post #290

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Lexus has models with a HUD. It was far less useful than I expected. It displays just a compass, digital speedometer, and indicators for cruise control and lane assist.

No directions for the route finder? That sounds really lame. The BMW HUD is much more useful, if you have a route going on, the turn instructions appear on the windshield.

If it does, then only with the built-in map. No CarPlay support.

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Post by asciimov »

sinab wrote: post #440

What I hate about "car discourse" like this is the apparent blindness to public transportation. Trains, bikes, buses, and street cars solve almost every problem that the author complains about. The only outstanding problem, however, is that American infrastructure has been deliberately designed solely around the car. Those who suggest alternative modes of public transportation are immediately written off as "impracti…

Public transportation is awful.

My car is clean, arrives and departs on my schedule, can go nearly everywhere, and is available at my doorstep. I don't have to deal with homeless people, sick people, poop, mystery fluids, or animals. And it can take me either down the street, or hundreds of miles away.

The automobile solves my problem, public transportation doesn't.

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Post by frenchy »

jhoechtl wrote: post #492
hahamrfunnyguy wrote: post #476

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What's wrong with riding a bike in 0 °C weather? When dressed for the weather riding in the cold weather can be quite enjoyable as long as the roads are clear or your bike has appropriate tires.

> When dressed for the weather riding in the cold weather can be quite enjoyable Not my sense of comfort. > as long as the roads are clear or your bike has appropriate tires. I live in a country where we have snow in winter, at least casually. I think driving safety is severely affected when driving single-track? Wouldn't ride my motorcycle in winter either.

Each to their own, of course. You have a better idea of what's safe for you.

That said I live in a snowy country and ride a bike. I absolutely wouldn't ride a motorcycle. Speed is by far the largest reason. On a bike, you can see black ice before you hit it. You can run a foot along the ground for extra traction. You can get out and walk and push your vehicle. You can just jump off if shit really hits the fan.

That said, I also ride slowly when the roads are poor.

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Post by uwuuwuuwu »

rsync wrote: post #448
Johnny555 wrote: post #256

I don't mind having a smart car, in fact, I like most of the "smart" features - lane centering, adaptive cruise, emergency braking, TPMS, lane change cameras, auto headlights, auto wipers, etc. But I want buttons and knobs for everything I use while driving. I probably wouldn't pay extra for built-in navigation (it generally comes with other options that I do want), but I've found it useful a few times when I was out…

"I like most of the "smart" features - lane centering, adaptive cruise, emergency braking ..." Please drive your car. I don't care what choices you make wrt bluetooth or heated seats or iphone integration ... but if you can't be bothered to drive the car then perhaps a different transport option would be a better choice for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESJH1NLMLs "... as we look at this accident history what…

Please stop driving your car. I don't care what choices you make wrt other ways you like to put others in danger, but if you can't be bothered to use features that can save others lives then a different transportation option would be a better choice for you and the world.

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by boring_twenties »

Fezzik wrote: post #6
junon wrote: post #5

Same with TVs, please. I can't find a single OLED on the market that doesn't have Android or some shitty Samsung OS installed on it.

I highly recommend TCL TVs. The remotes are super simple (with just the buttons you need), the UI is straightforward and you never have to connect to the internet. I’m on my second panel, only because I wanted to downsize from 65” to a 55” when I moved, and connected to an AppleTV it is a dream to use. Edit, to add: the OLEDs aren’t to market yet… but they’re on the way!

How long does it take to turn on and start displaying the input video?

Re: Please make a dumb car

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Post by boring_twenties »

yencabulator wrote: post #321

My Jeep Wrangler is the kind of a vehicle you can leave out in the rain without the top, exposed to the elements. Floors have drain plugs, and there's very little electronics where water could intrude. The car stereo is visibly not worth stealing, and if it breaks at most I would take it out to have a new storage cubby. It's very refreshing to own.

I would love one of those but even before the pandemic, clapped out examples from the late 90's with over 100k miles were going for $10-15k++. At least in my area.

I'm like, weren't these things $15k brand new?

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