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Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#251
> lonely developers and other socially awkward people - short guys looking for girlfriends, unattractive/aging women looking for husbands, etc. All the "normal" people I knew...

I never knew short guys and unattractive/aging women are not normal people. Is life a hollywood movie?

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#252
I’m in the exact same situation. I’ve been working with therapists (it took a couple to find the right one), and it’s been great!

I now consider it a super-power, and a luxury—to have someone totally external to my normal life, that I talk to regularly, who understand me, and who is paid to help me. It’s the only relation in my life where the dialog is 100% about me, and my well being, where I don’t have to have any considerations for anything, or anyone else, else at that time.

Highly recommend it!

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#253
Best of luck to OP, and there are some solid suggestions in this thread!

Just wanted to add that the wholesale adoption and normalization of WFH and remote culture in tech is worrying and will only make this type of issue worse and more common. Personally, I had consistently been able to make good friendships at work across several positions at different companies/cities/countries. That's until WFH and remote work hit, where now I rarely see coworkers in person (if at all), and often people are not in the same city. We feel more like automatons these days.

Tech work seems no longer a reliable vector for creating meaningful friendships or a social life outside of work. Like OP, many of us will have to learn to meet people outside of work.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#254

While perhaps a loaded suggestion, if you have the tolerance for it, I’d suggest attending a church. You can utilize the social aspect without fully committing to the spiritual aspects. The reason I suggest it is because of it’s role as the post-college college where you can build deep relationships and people of all ages are genuinely wanting to network specifically to build a community. They’re not doing happy hour…

This truly is terrible advice.

The worst thing that could happen would be your life gets wrapped into a religious community. This is why people of seeming average intelligence stay in churches. Everyone is pretending to believe the nonsense because if anyone admits (often even just to themselves) just how stupid it is, poof goes their friends, community, perhaps even their marriage.

> I’m not even spiritual and I avoid a lot of the overly churchy parts.

Literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON in a church says this. I knew of a literal cult, whose leaders ended up in jail, and THEY said this. Everyone says this because what's written in these books is indefensibly stupid that it's embarrassing.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#255
Travel. People think traveling is escapist and not helpful. This I don't believe. Yes you'll drag all your problems with you but now you have no excuses and you'll have to fix them. But you'll have a fresh perspective on everything and a broader perspective on life. You'll understand yourself and the now bigger world better

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#256

WTF is wrong with short men and unattractive women, are they not humans with emotions who can make friends? In my experience these regular folks are the ones with whom you can have strong friendships that are not just skin deep. Maybe your attitude of treating unattractive people as beneath you needs to be fixed before you can find meaningful relationships.

Imagine if I said I went to some event but unfortunately there were only x person of ethnicity. Yuck!

If the OP only wants to be friends with attractive women and tall guys, more power to him but he won't get much sympathy for me for that comment. Opportunities in life comes in many shapes and forms. That short guy or unattractive woman who they could've made friends with could've also opened up more social opportunities.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to learn to like yourself before others will though, having a deep sense of self loathing, even self consciously, will put people off of you, you emanate a deep proverbial psychological stink - and it turns people away.

That might be a step further than is necessary. I don’t think you have to like yourself, and it’s much easier to like yourself if someone else likes you first. However, I do agree that you need to get past self-loathing to at least self-acceptance of some kind. Mostly because self-loathing means putting your attention on yourself, and that is what makes it hard to connect with other people. It’s ok to not have a high…

tolerate then.

You have you not actively dislike yourself.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

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post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to learn to like yourself before others will though, having a deep sense of self loathing, even self consciously, will put people off of you, you emanate a deep proverbial psychological stink - and it turns people away.

I think that's true, its just not helpful advice. Simply "chosing" to be happy is like simply "chosing" to be a milioniare.

It wont make you any happier, but its the first step down that road.

Re: Ask HN: At a peak of my dev career, I hate my life

#260
If you are only meeting lonely programmer types at dance lessons, you should pick something more social.

Book clubs. Films clubs. Run clubs. Hell, take up fishing and go to meetups (super social sport, believe it or not).

There are many varied ways to connect with other people. If it is a romantic partner you want to meet and you are a straight man, skip fishing meet ups and replace that recommendation with Yoga or Zumba.

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