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I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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Is there something like that for foreigners from the NSA CIA WhateverA too?

They have records on you if you exist, and probably if you don't, too.

In other words. Assuming I spend lot of my youth with cryptography, tor, basically gray area things. I realize they may have a record on me, but is there any way to know if it is safe for me to ever enter the country without them making a huge deal out of it?

I wouldn't ask wouldn't I know people personally who had extended weird discussions for hours before they could enter the country.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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A person I know studied in East Germany in the early 80s via a very limited exchange program. After the wall came down, she requested her Stasi file. It was fascinating what was in the file - lots of misunderstandings and misinterpretations. For example, she was upset when the Challenger exploded, and this mystified the Stasi informers who had previously identified her as a pacifist (in their minds, the Shuttle was 1…

This might be a good way to explain my discomfort with online tracking. Machines categorising you based on your behaviour, without your knowledge nor your consent. It's not so bad when it serves you ads (unless it sells alcohol to alcoholics), but there's no telling what similar algorithms would say about you in the hands of a rogue government. They can find vulnerable people, people who hate certain people [0], peop…

How long did it take you to build Timeline?

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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I once made a purchase of multiple items where the cashier scanned the items, put them in a bag, charged me a total and I paid it. Only sometime later I found out they missed a $100 item. Did I steal something? Did the cashier give me something for free? Who is responsible? What if I didn't notice the $100 charge absent from the bill? What if I was charged twice as much? What if I told the cashier and they did nothin…

The OP knowingly walked out without being charged. At this point it’s not any different than if he/she had just pocketed it and walked out. The different between this and the contrived shit you posted is knowing you didn’t pay and walking out of the store in the first place. There isn’t really any subtly here.

It is different. In the checkout case, the cashier's intervening negligent act led to you getting the item for free.

It might still be theft (or fraud or some related charge), but only if those laws create a strict liability crime out of keeping something that you know was given to you by mistake. I'm not sure but I think there might be specific laws to that effect if you knowingly take advantage of a bank's mistake. Whether there's a similar law in general, probably depends on where you live.

In the pure theft case, there's no intervening act by a store employee. It requires criminal intent.

The argument that if the customer knew, it's theft, applies equally to cases where the product is rung up incorrectly, which several other people in this thread have claimed to have witnessed. I guess we're all thieves now. I've been overcharged and undercharged at stores.

Also even if the intervening act by the store employee doesn't matter, it would be impossible to prosecute. They'd have to show that the customer knew the checkout person missed the item. How would they do that? Interrogating people you live with to find out if you mentioned it to them? No, they don't have access to admissions on HN years later.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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If I were smarter, I probably would have learned about proxy servers. I was tantalizingly close as is. I had set up port forwarding on our home router and a dyndns account to access my (Linux) desktop via ssh. I'm almost surprised it took me another few years to bump into SOCKS proxies. I already had 99% of the setup, just not the final step. Oh well I guess. Our school was Windows land as well. They blocked executio…

> They blocked execution of certain programs by some policy in Windows explorer in Windows XP. Funny thing was, if you knew the path to them, you could just point Firefox or Chrome at a file:// URI and run it out of your downloads directory. Oops. Microsoft security baffles me. You could run Windows Update in the browser (and also antiviruses using ActiveX). Who would think of making it possible to alter the OS… from…

sacrificing security for convenience

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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I was in high school from 2007 to 2011. Half of it in rural Alabama, the other half in the Bay. Even being in the tech capital of the world, the school administration's views on technology and information access were so backwards. Our school basically didn't allow accessing any websites that weren't on some allowlist. Teachers had accounts to bypass the content filter. We had a game design class that happened after s…

> Even being in the tech capital of the world, the school administration's views on technology and information access were so backwards. Our school basically didn't allow accessing any websites that weren't on some allowlist. That sounds very big tech to me, exactly the model towards which Facebook et al. are moving.

Sounds like normal best practice for a secure environment full of shitheads to me. The hell does this have to do with Facebook? What website am I on?

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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In grade school a class mate told me how to mail letters for free: print where the letter _should be sent_ in the return address, print anything for the apparent delivery address, apply no stamp, and drop in a public mail bin. The letter will be sent "back" to the return address because postage was not paid. When I got home later that day I excitedly shared with my parents the new hack I had learned and they told me…

I would expect that postage scam to only work in the same geographic area. If you put a return as California but dropped it in the box in NY I dont know if they would return it, would they? If so I would imagine they have anti-fraud measures against doing this in mass.

A postmark is applied where the post office receives the letter. If the return address isn't in the post office's service area and there's no postmark, it's fraudulent. I'd be shocked if the automated systems don't check for that before applying a postmark.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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This might be a good way to explain my discomfort with online tracking. Machines categorising you based on your behaviour, without your knowledge nor your consent. It's not so bad when it serves you ads (unless it sells alcohol to alcoholics), but there's no telling what similar algorithms would say about you in the hands of a rogue government. They can find vulnerable people, people who hate certain people [0], peop…

I hold that we still have not imagined (not even in science fiction) the horrors totalitarian governments are now capable of in a fully-networked, computer-brokered society.

I don't think this is reserved to governments, one can easily imagine corporatised versions of the same thing.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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A person I know studied in East Germany in the early 80s via a very limited exchange program. After the wall came down, she requested her Stasi file. It was fascinating what was in the file - lots of misunderstandings and misinterpretations. For example, she was upset when the Challenger exploded, and this mystified the Stasi informers who had previously identified her as a pacifist (in their minds, the Shuttle was 1…

Anyone who is interested in this stuff should watch The Lives of Others (2006). It is unfathomable just how deeply entrenched Stasi was in every affair of citizens in East Germany. No organization in history has perhaps been as effective as them at spycraft, at least of their own people.

Their foreign intelligence division (the HVA) was also regarded as the best of the best.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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> they didn't shadow protect their password files Could you please explain what this means? Googling didn't reveal much.

The UNIX family of operating system (Unices) historically stored passwords in /etc/passwd, which was readable (but passwords were soon hashed, i.e. passed through a one-way function to obfuscate them). Eventually, shadow passwords were introduced to have the passwords themselves stored in another place with stricter access rights (readable only by the sysadmin or their group), so even the hashed versions were inacces…

I always thought the shadow was just a way to refer to a hash -- the shadow of a thing being less detailed/unique but still capable of being used for recognition.

Maybe I read Plato around the same time as I heard of it and that biased my thinking.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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post #184

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This might be a good way to explain my discomfort with online tracking. Machines categorising you based on your behaviour, without your knowledge nor your consent. It's not so bad when it serves you ads (unless it sells alcohol to alcoholics), but there's no telling what similar algorithms would say about you in the hands of a rogue government. They can find vulnerable people, people who hate certain people [0], peop…

How long did it take you to build Timeline?

I work on it on and off. Sometimes I'll work on it full time for a few days, and sometimes I'll leave it untouched for months. I started it in late 2019, IIRC.
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