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I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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I hold that we still have not imagined (not even in science fiction) the horrors totalitarian governments are now capable of in a fully-networked, computer-brokered society.

Like implementing social credit score and aloowing people activities based on it? Oh wait...

That's just a very light beginning, a prolog, not more. Imagine Facebook with all its data run by the state, and fully used.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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The Stasi was, especially in the end, exponentional invasive. Meaning they approached allmost anyone in any slightly important position and put pressure on them, to work with them to report on their collegues. (In the end, there were 90 000 of them, with a population of only 16 million). "you help us (and socialism) and we help your career - or you decline and good luck with your career, or the carrer of your partner…

you send one to prison for telling a bad joke about the government? For the most part, that sort of thing did not send people to prison. They'd have run out of prisons.

This is inaccurate. They let it go a lot, but they used it happily the minute you got on their wrong side, and it absolutely was enough.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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It makes me wonder -- does everyone end up investigated for their interest in HTTPS and trying to think up encryption methods? It seems even having a passive interest in computer science or cryptocurrency would inevitably lead to one taking a class or buying a book on these topics. The business person in me always brainstorms the various potential business applications of any technology -- and that inevitably leads t…

> Any system of policing that results in entire professions and swathes of hobbyists being considered and treated as enemies of the state is essentially the same level of injustice as the witch trials of old and shows our species has not improved all that much.

It's much worse now. Now data is collected on every last person in the US indiscriminately so we're all under constant investigation and being treated like enemies of the state. With detailed records of every person and who they associate with the state is free to pick and choose who to target and can easily find incriminating evidence against anyone they decide has become inconvenient for them. Inquisitors tormenting "witches" couldn't dream of having so much power to abuse.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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A friend of mine in 1997 got arrested for poking around in air force computer systems. He was charged with a felony not because he did any damage but because it cost $40k to track him down. He also had to pay that back. https://attrition.org/~jericho/works/security/crime_punishme... "Once again, when computer crime enters the equation, circumstances seem to change. In May of 1997, Wendell Dingus was sentenced by a fe…

Wendell Dingus

Can we just take a moment to appreciate that name?

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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That is not true. The NSA operates domestically as well.

https://www.nsa.gov/about/

Don't click on that link or they'll put you on their list of people who are spying on them!

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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This story (assuming it's true) should serve as an excellent example of why you need privacy even if you think that you don't. In peace time the NSA is only looking for "terrorist" and leaves everyone alone, but in case of war they would start creating lists for any and everything. All it takes is one "tough" agent trusting their gut feeling/algorithm based on your browsing history and shopping habits to put a target…

> In peace time the NSA is only looking for "terrorist" and leaves everyone alone If you say so.

You can't spell uNSAvory without NSA.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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You just stole it. I don’t see how this is even a grey area. Can you walk me through the thinking of “the cashier touched it, so now it’s mine?”

I once made a purchase of multiple items where the cashier scanned the items, put them in a bag, charged me a total and I paid it. Only sometime later I found out they missed a $100 item. Did I steal something? Did the cashier give me something for free? Who is responsible? What if I didn't notice the $100 charge absent from the bill? What if I was charged twice as much? What if I told the cashier and they did nothin…

The OP knowingly walked out without being charged. At this point it’s not any different than if he/she had just pocketed it and walked out.

The different between this and the contrived shit you posted is knowing you didn’t pay and walking out of the store in the first place. There isn’t really any subtly here.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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Be sure to read the follow-up ( https://web.stanford.edu/~learnest/cyclops/bash1.htm ) about the challenges the author faced in trying to help move forward a reasonably safe standard for bicycle helmets.

If bicycle helmets were essential for causal-speed, safe path, everyday bicycling, the Dutch would use them. Interesting fact: in the US, riders without helmets receive more average buffer space from road vehicles than those with. If you're downhill mountain biking, wear a proper helmet. If you're racing in Manhattan, wear an equally suitable helmet. If you're leisurely riding on a wide, empty side road in a resident…

Those Dutch who don't wear helmets do it because they're idiots, it's as simple as that. Any fall - even if you're standing with your legs on the ground - on a bike can break your skull. You try to avoid a dog or a ball and pull the front brake instead of both - boom broken skull. It's just plain dumb.

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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First year emigrating to the US, I started a service to automate the laborious College Algebra online homework with WolframAlpha and $20/job Pakistani teens. Had an AdWords campaign running. Calls kept pouring in - majority from Phoenix university students. If you wanted a perfect score, I’d charge you extra. If you wanted an imperfect score, I’d still charge you extra. Life was good, I was naive. I thought I had cracked it. Then I got served. The CEO of the company (one of the biggest educational publishers) was to fly in personally. They thought I ran a huge operation with many departments, since I would routinely change voices and direct customers around departments. Once my lawyers learned the real scale of the operation, they laughed and managed to get all charges dropped.

Looking back at it, would I have had a chance, had I approached the company in some defensive role against such activity?

Re: I got an FBI record at age 11 from dabbling in cryptography (2015)

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Like implementing social credit score and aloowing people activities based on it? Oh wait...

That's just a very light beginning, a prolog, not more. Imagine Facebook with all its data run by the state, and fully used.

They basically manufacture consent by assuming it since they already have all your friends.
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