The case against masks at school

Post by unethical_ban » Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:05 PM UTC

colpabar wrote: post #461

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NYTimes has a pretty good source on this. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-hospitals-... I'll tell you that here in Chicago, based off data, and anecdotes: really depends on the neighborhood. Vaccinated areas? Doing fine. Undervaccinated areas? Not doing so well. Gosh, it's like vaccines work and that's the way out of this.

> Gosh, it's like vaccines work and that's the way out of this. You know, I see snarky little comments like this becoming more and more common on this site, and I'd just like to point out that they are not helpful in any way. Who is it directed towards? Do you think you are convincing anyone , or encouraging a productive discussion? I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of people on this website are va…

Post by spookthesunset » Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:06 PM UTC

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The idea is to reduce the spread of the virus in order to protect everyone from a lack of hospital beds and exhausted medical staff. It's not about protecting the individual children (at least not primarily, because they are so low risk). Whether or not this is still a useful approach probably depends on the locale. It seems like places where the Omicron wave is rapidly ending, having children wear masks is entirely…

>The idea is to reduce the spread of the virus in order to protect everyone from a lack of hospital beds and exhausted medical staff. People keep saying this, but if hospital capacity was actually the "real" bottleneck in treating covid then why haven't we seen massive campaigns to expand that capacity? "Do this thing that is marginally beneficial for adults and potentially actively harmful long term for children to…

Post by nradov » Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:07 PM UTC

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There is no evidence that I am aware of which would indicate places with strict mandates (Boston or LA) did significantly better or worse than places that made such mandates illegal (Texas). The outbreak curves and percentages are basically the same, especially when you account for the population differences in age, obeasity, diabetes, etc. A red state might do worse at times, but is also more easily explained as a r…

> The outbreak curves and percentages are basically the same, especially when you account for the population differences in age, obeasity, diabetes, etc. Can you cite a source for this claim?

Post by ajford » Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:08 PM UTC

xigoi wrote: post #260

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> For two years we’ve been asked to park our problems and to act like literally all that matters is the spread of Covid. The problem is only half the population really followed through. These measures are still needed more because half the population effectively thinks COVID is no big deal or a hoax.

Many of the restrictions were mandatory, so all people had to follow through…

Post by sleepybrett » Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:09 PM UTC

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You walk by others while you are not at your table. What do you want to do? Hold your breath? Not to mention bathrooms and so forth. Presumably the tables are well spaced etc...

In an open air room, the difference between walking past and sitting in the same room as is negligible. Total theatre, does nothing besides allowing restaurants and patrons to feel ok/that they are “doing something” and stay open.