Thanks for the missing context I haven't been following the news around this in any detail. Also, I agree it was politically a bad move and she should have expected it and prepared better. Just him mocking aspiring to be a dog walker really revolted me. I deeply appreciate everyone who does things for me so I can be doing other things that interest me no matter what they might be.
walking dogs for living is surely a valid life choice, it's just not a type of career you would expect from leader of a movement.
I'm not sure why it's not a reasonable career for someone leading a movement. Unless/until the movement can pay them to be full time, they have to do something to eat. I would imagine people leading a movement would prioritize a lower number of work hours to distract from that and a flexible schedule.
That said, this appears to be a mod of a subreddit, not the leader of a movement.
I personally agree that our goal should be not having to work to live. Making a "living" should not be a thing. People should work because they want to work, or because they want a higher amount of resources and comfort than the basic level provides. That said, that position is one that Fox News would be happy to make a field day of for their viewers, especially if they get someone who can't coherently argue for it,…
Where does the 'basic level' of resources and comfort come from, if one does not work ? I agree that life shouldn't be all about work, surely some form of work is essential to be able to provide the basics, even if that work is farming your own land to grow your own food. Anyone expecting even a basic level of anything without being willing to contribute at all is not demonstrating good behaviour within society.
> Anyone expecting even a basic level of anything without being willing to contribute at all is not demonstrating good behaviour within society.
Philosophically, why is that? Second question, what should we do about trust fund babies who never contribute anything other than a demand for yachts?
The host was quite respectful and only asked reasonable questions.
When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt them. If the mod had coherent sensible arguments, I'm sure the host would've done the usual Fox News tactics of talking over them, misstating their points, etc. But he didn't need to. All he had to do was reel out enough rope for her to make a noose.
Lets not pretend CNN would have been any better to a right leaning guest.
- For those outside of the loop, a couple time-ordered points not mentioned here: Fox contacted to the mods and asked specifically to talk with this person, and the mods accepted this instead of other due to having some experience in other media. All of this without asking the users if they agree with that. The Fox interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yUMIFYBMnc After the Fox interview happened, practically th…
> Mods weren't clever enough to ask the people if they wanted or not to be in Fox, who should be the spokesperson,
They did ask the subreddit. It voted that no one should go on Fox.
The entire thing was a disaster, start to finish. If you're going on Fox News, at least clean your room, put on something other than a sweatshirt, and come PREPARED. You have to know that Fox is going to ask you horribly loaded questions that aim to make you seem like the biggest fool on earth. But the funny part is, they didn't even do that. The questions asked pretty much amounted to "What are your aspirations?" an…
FYI you may want to rehost that second image. Reddit is currently scrubbing that image off their website, and they will delete it if they become aware of it.
walking dogs for living is surely a valid life choice, it's just not a type of career you would expect from leader of a movement.
I'm not sure why it's not a reasonable career for someone leading a movement. Unless/until the movement can pay them to be full time, they have to do something to eat. I would imagine people leading a movement would prioritize a lower number of work hours to distract from that and a flexible schedule. That said, this appears to be a mod of a subreddit, not the leader of a movement.
If someone like this individual is your ideal of a leader, more power to you. And one _can_ really be a leader while doing something menial (look at Buddha for example), but there has to be something more to a person than walking dogs. And that is what reporter tried hard to uncover, but of course it was interpreted as him trolling. But he was really onto something. You might want to work something minimal, but that's not the end goal. Remember the guy who was promoting the "4 hour work week"? He was not advocating to just sit and do nothing, he was saying - work less so that you can do things you like. And that is what reporter tried to uncover - ok, so one works 20 hours a week - why? what's the purpose? Have any hobbies? Do something exciting remaining time? Raising children, boating, hiking, playing sports, meditating, flying a kite, partying, travelling - WHAT is it that you do now that you have so much extra time? And it turned out that this individual has no answer, which likely means that the answer is "wasting". And that's the most damaging revelation in the whole interview - you cheat your employer, you are a parasite on society, and is that for some higher purpose? Nope, not at all. People working 90 hours a week have more exciting and fulfilling lives
Harsh words, but true. +1 The best thing for most people to realise is that "life's not fair, deal with it".
Sounds dangerously close to "life's not fair, keep your mouth closed and do nothing about it".
Not really, life _isn't_ fair, so do what you can to make the most of it.
No matter who you talk to, everyone will have their hardships, but complaining about it rarely makes things change for the better. I'm not saying one shouldn't advocate for change or try to change a broken system, but for your situation to improve, often the only thing you can do is just try harder and hope for a little luck.
I support the "work reform, unionize, know what you're worth" camp of this "antiwork" crowd, I 100% agree that workers should be more open about wages, try to organise and show solidarity... I'm a salaried worker myself and my quality of life is very much correlated to that of the AVG worker. That doesn't mean I believe that I can fix the world and all of its ills, nor do I care to.
Fox News actually didn't select her - the mod team elected her as the best representative. Think about that.
I think what really happened was that r/antiwork started out as being more of a philosophical sub for people who wanted to explore the utopian but unrealistic vision of people not having to work at all. Then, later, it grew to host this larger movement of frustrated workers needing reform. The mod Doreen I believe originally founded the sub, but now is not a good representative of the larger movement. Fox News is of…
Fox News didn't need to try too hard to make the movement look bad, right?