Universally necessary services like communication, healthcare, and social media (the digital plaza) can never be justly managed by private companies. It is an inherent structural contradiction that has failed and will continue to fail our society until we are willing to organize resistance beyond the realm of consumer choice.
Facebook page is not necessary communication. That's telephone and mobile networks. Healthcare is successfully managed by private companies all around the world - even in Europe (the funding is organized by law but still the hospitals are private companies and half of EU countries have private health insurance companies). The horrors of publicly managed social media were already tested here in Europe too and we never…
Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users
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Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users
#12The suggestion in a previous thread about buying an Oculus to get priority customer support is also not a bad one.
Do you have any snapshots of your membership base? Maybe you can reach out and start anew. Check your email, as it'll typically have a lot of names and accounts. Also see if archive.org and archive.is have snapshots.
If and when you do get your community back, I'd highly suggest starting an internet forum and directing some or all of your community there.
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#13Universally necessary services like communication, healthcare, and social media (the digital plaza) can never be justly managed by private companies. It is an inherent structural contradiction that has failed and will continue to fail our society until we are willing to organize resistance beyond the realm of consumer choice.
You're assuming that public organizations would run a more secure responsive network. My interactions with public institutions makes me doubt this assumption, especially for something as vast and complicated as facebook's network.
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#15Universally necessary services like communication, healthcare, and social media (the digital plaza) can never be justly managed by private companies. It is an inherent structural contradiction that has failed and will continue to fail our society until we are willing to organize resistance beyond the realm of consumer choice.
Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users
#16You can potentially request all your data (and data about the hack) and let them know why, maybe reach out asking how you can get law enforcement involved and who you should contact after you've made a police report. It's not a threat, but it get it on somebodies radar. If you express how devastated you are there is potential for them to help. They also have a lot more latitude than any kind of helpdesk (especially at the scale of Facebook, and the users/customers facebook has).
They're also well connected with-in an organization because they have to sign-off on all kinds of projects and risks.
I think `patio11` has amazing advice is a similar vein[1].
[1]: https://twitter.com/patio11/status/1162561822248992768?lang=... (I think he has a longer version/reference, but I can't find it)
Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users
#17Facebook is a cancer, take this as a sign to start your own social network. There's lots of 'off-the-shelf' scripts you can use (see codecanyon.net) You can rebuild your community in no time and make it better than it was.
People could control what they share based on a parent dashboard and changes would automatically cascade to platforms you added.
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#18Your best bet is to get ahold of actual Facebook engineers, and this is a good place to do it. Take this issue to Twitter as well. It looks like your previous posts didn't make it to the front page, but with any luck this time you'll get some real traction. The suggestion in a previous thread about buying an Oculus to get priority customer support is also not a bad one. Do you have any snapshots of your membership ba…
Isn't this exactly what the OP is asking HN to help them do? It's not like they asked "what do I do?", they specifically asked for help doing what you've not helfpully posted they do.
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#19Universally necessary services like communication, healthcare, and social media (the digital plaza) can never be justly managed by private companies. It is an inherent structural contradiction that has failed and will continue to fail our society until we are willing to organize resistance beyond the realm of consumer choice.
If your local newspaper blockaded you out of their advertising section 50 years ago (eg they dislike you), it could have been devastating too. There are a lot of scenarios like that. You can't get around those potential problems by saying everything should be run under National Socialism; instead of dealing with Verizon you'll be dealing with a board of vicious bureaucrats with direct political power - they can have you shot or imprisoned at will in a more developed Socialist system - that will eventually want bribed to let you continue to exist.
Re: Ask HN: Hacker claimed ownership and then deleted my Facebook Page of 50k users
#20Facebook is a cancer, take this as a sign to start your own social network. There's lots of 'off-the-shelf' scripts you can use (see codecanyon.net) You can rebuild your community in no time and make it better than it was.
Sorry OP. I don't know anyone who can help. It seems to me like FB would be able to reactivate the group if you can get a hold of someone. I don't think they purged their DB of your group.