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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by caskstrength »

Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

> There's extensive coverage of Tokyo, by comparison. It's interesting to see the high-density housing blocks and street-level activity. (The "let's increase housing density" crowd from Strong Towns should watch those videos.)

Hmm, visiting Tokyo (which is even better than watching videos) didn't make me change my opinions about high-density housing. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by 3np »

kragen wrote: post #350
3np wrote: post #337

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You're right! Was on mobile where YT isn't available for me.

I think you can install youtube-dl (or yt-dlp) in termux, or if not maybe use NewPipe.

I do, just usually save it for when I'm on a proper computer. (Piped is my fav altfront for YT so far BTW)

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by _kulang »

meheleventyone wrote: post #273
Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

Just shows how casually misogynist the world still is. Some of the replies here are pretty shocking

As far as I thought, that’s why she does this, her technical skills and her appearance don’t align only if you have a preconceived notion about how she should look

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by caskstrength »

meheleventyone wrote: post #283
raxxorrax wrote: post #188

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I don't really support to ban anything that could be seen as sexual, but if you put it out, some people will always judge you on that merit. It will also net you attention and can overshadow your other feats. Should she be condemned for that? I don't think so. But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence.

We shouldn't accept it though and there is a massive double-standard in the treatment of the merit of women who are also sexy and men who are also sexy. We don’t question the merit of Ronaldo as a footballer because he also uses his body in a sexy way to advertise for example. Another aspect as well is homogenising around the social mores of America by default which particularly in the aspects of sex and sexuality ar…

> We shouldn't accept it though and there is a massive double-standard in the treatment of the merit of women who are also sexy and men who are also sexy. We don’t question the merit of Ronaldo as a footballer because he also uses his body in a sexy way to advertise for example.

Of course we do! I'm not into football, but several of my friends who are dislike him explicitly because of this.

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Post by [deleted] »

kstenerud wrote: post #61
jb1991 wrote: post #53

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My point is different. Is it the same fight? Is explicitly pushing boundaries because you want to be seen as sexualized and have the right to do so the same as trying to push those boundaries while claiming not to aim for sexualization? Honest question as they don’t seem the same. But maybe they are?

It's the same thing . It's fighting against the stupid view that two lumps under your flesh are somehow evil and must be hidden away or punished somehow (but only if you're a woman), or that touching your crotch on television is an arrestable offence, or any other thing in that long list of stupidity. It's about having rights over your own body, such that you can say "You don't like what you see? Well too bad, becaus…

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Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by kstenerud »

chii wrote: post #313
kstenerud wrote: post #26

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So did Madonna. And for good reason. Quite often one needs to take a more direct approach because these misogynistic policies are so ingrained that people actually believe them to be natural . One needs to be in-your-face to get past that. We like to scoff at Muslims and their backwards policies about women, and yet somehow Western societies are blind to their own - so much so that we need to be told from time to tim…

> We like to scoff at Muslims and their backwards policies about women, and yet somehow Western societies are blind to their own it's the american (or western?) exceptionalism at play - the bar is set to the _current_ western level, and muslim rules that the taliban abide by are seen as a lower level of civility (where civility is defined as _western social mores_).

Please don't mistake what I've said for whataboutism. The Muslim rules about women that the Taliban abide by are a lower level of civility. Full stop.

We've had similar disconnects between civilisations on other topics such as slavery, brigandry, serfdom, duels, witch trials, honor killings, torture, debtors prison, capital punishment and such, which improved and in some cases even disappeared as various peoples attained higher levels of civilisation.

That said, being "less bad" compared to some others isn't a laudable accomplishment. Honestly investigating your weak spots is an important aspect to growth.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by alisonatwork »

Freak_NL wrote: post #127
robinduckett wrote: post #51

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> mainland Chinese citizen Which is a hugely touchy subject around here on its own, for some reason

From what I understand it is as often a problem with translation as it a clear political standpoint. What makes the phrase 'mainland China' problematic in English, is that it can mean a number of things. Someone from China using it may do so because: * They were taught to do so and simply understand it to mean 'someone from the People's Republic of China'. No political subtext intended. * They use it to mean that the…

In my experience the vast majority of people who use the phrase "mainland China" in Guangdong - and especially Pearl River Delta area - are using it to mean "not Hong Kong or Macau". Taiwan is really not part of the consideration for most people in Guangdong.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by torginus »

Animats wrote: post #155

Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…

Why is it a problem that she employs people to help with her work? Putting out novel and high quality videos at a constant rate is hard.

Despite a lot of popular youtubers giving off the vibe of being one-person shows, most employ production assistants and editors.

Besides, (old) Top Gear was one of the most beloved shows of all time, which constantly featured segments where the Clarkson-Hammond-May trio was implied to make various contraptions, which were clearly made by the production staff. Not once did I feel like that it detracted from the enjoyment.

So as long she puts out high quality content, no one should mind that what she does is 'movie magic' in part.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by akudha »

jb1991 wrote: post #156
coldtea wrote: post #140

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Why she shouldn't have the right to be seen as sexualized if she wants to? Because sex is bad, and tempting/teasing people is bad? - as some certain cultures say (but hardly bat an eye with portrayals of "fun" violence or tons of other issues).

She completely has that right. I think a lot of the controversy is an appearance of being disingenuous by claiming that she’s not trying to be sexualized. I’m not talking about this particular video by the way, but more than likely the reactions to her other videos have affected how this particular video is judged, which is probably not fair.

I remember getting a book on spirituality whose author is an attractive young woman. She had rather suggestive photos of herself throughout the book and the book's content had nothing to do with the photos (and it was wasting space, the book would have been a few pages shorter without the photos). The book itself was pretty good, but it was really annoying to see her photos everywhere. There is not one reason for suggestive photos and yet here we are.

This to me, is disingenuous. If I am attending a math lecture, I do not want to see my professor's abs (or balls or whatever) even if he was the most attractive man on the planet.

The problem (at least to me) is not that Naomi is wearing skimpy clothes. The problem is her channel has nothing to do with fashion (or women empowerment etc). It can be a completely fun and educative channel, instead there is more discussion about her clothes than the good stuff she makes and the good education she provides. All the while claiming she is not trying to be sexualized. All this unnecessary controversy can probably be shut down if she had two channels - one for fashion and one for electronics.

Having said all that, maybe we should grow up as a society and learn to not put so much thought into body parts. I get that viewpoint too.

Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube

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Post by 3np »

3np wrote: post #175
SexyCyborg wrote: post #46

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Yes, unfortunately it's a bit like trying to run a hotel and not being able to take Visa or Mastercard- just Discover Card. Alternatives in this case don't really help, it's marketshare that produces the income.

It's a chicken-and-egg-thing though, with the viewers and the uploaders... I think the most realistic path to something better is that content-makers who realize the value in alternatives to the YT model and Google or would like to minimize being dependent on their goodwill, will start to double-post their content to a less controlled alternative (today that would be Peertube and/or LBRY). It will probably not happen…

Hey, I see you're on Odyssey at least \o/

https://odysee.com/@Naomi-SexyCyborg-Wu:b

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