Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was curious to find which countries oppress sexuality, and found this interesting map: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-95129...
I think most naturists would argue that nude and topless sunbathing has nothing to do with sex or sexuality. If they are political at all they would say they are taking back nudity from sexuality.
Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
341–350 of 579 posts
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#342Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…
Perhaps there is a good balance that we can reach?
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#343What I don't get is how in year 2022, having landed on the moon and tricked silicon into computing for us, we as a western civilization still haven't come to terms with our own bodies, other peoples' bodies, the fact that we have a sex drive, the fact that we can and do have sex for pleasure and punish ourselves for all of these things. It's insane.
There is no such thing as Western civilization, cultures are different. This one is all on America.
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#344Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But regardless of men or women neither should be dictating how some woman want to show their body. But, they can dictate how some men want to show their body? *shakes head* Firstly, you claimed that men are the problem, not that people who object are the problem. This new claim is a different claim. Secondly, whether you like it or not, women are more likely to complain of male nudity in a venue than men are to com…
> Secondly, whether you like it or not, women are more likely to complain of male nudity in a venue than men are to complain of female nudity in a venue, yet you want to portray the argument as "men are the problem". Source? Anecdotally living in the South, it is overwhelmingly men complaining about women not properly conforming to their sensibility regarding modesty. I've never heard it the other way around, and you…
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idk, I think he's got you with the "sub out for dick" thing. We live in an (I hope) egalitarian democracy and what's acceptable to display is dictated by our polis. Can this same be said regarding women wearing burkas in Afghanistan. >most men don't want to be tempted by seeing boobs Just lol
A woman's boob is not equivalent to a man's penis. If anything, a vagina is is the equivalent to a penis, as both organs are used as part of sex. A boob is not normally used as part of sex. That being said, if we all agree that no genders can show their sexual organs then that's fine. That's at least an equally applied rule. However the issue here is that some men, and some women too, find it bothers them to see boob…
You didn't respond to my points about skin exposure being a social norm. We choose to show/hide genitals, breasts, ankles, feet, etc based on a region by region basis.
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't really support to ban anything that could be seen as sexual, but if you put it out, some people will always judge you on that merit. It will also net you attention and can overshadow your other feats. Should she be condemned for that? I don't think so. But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence.
>But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence. There's a line between "never be the focus" and "we will erase you". This sort of thing is constant- but I'll give you a recent example- NPR recently ran this story: https://www.npr.org/2021/10/25/1047691984/decades-after-poli... About an American lady who needed some parts for her iron lung and how no one would help her. Only the thing is, th…
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#347Naomi Wu seems to upset a lot of people. She makes things, and was accused by the publisher of "Make" magazine of being a fake, with some guy doing the actual work. She replied by posting long, detailed videos of her making stuff. An hour of cutting aluminum extrusions with a chop saw and putting together a frame. Soldering PC boards. Eventually, the guy apologized. One of the useful things she's done is to put up lo…
I wonder what fraction of people here commenting disapprovingly about her choice of wardrobe think YouTube should demonetize videos of bodybuilding competitions, male rock stars, or boxing. Because apparently those are super sexy, though I think the bodybuilding thing appeals to more gay men than to het women. Also apparently a lot of male gamer Youtubers are considered sexy, even though they don't have exaggerated s…
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But, they can dictate how some men want to show their body? shakes head You're making this a gender war thing. It's not about who gets to dictate what to whom. It's about why something is dictated and who it's benefitting. For genitalia, both genders are not allowed to show theirs. This is acceptable because it's fair. For breasts, men can show theirs, yet women cannot. For skirts: too short and a woman is labeled…
Quoted post unavailable.
Men do have breasts. They are simply not as enlarged. But again you are missing the point because a flat-chested woman would not be allowed to show her breasts either. Maybe men are just better genetically because we are not born so immodest?
My argument summed up is that woman have certain non-sex related body parts (could be hips, could be breasts) that have certain display requirements thrust upon them because they cause sexualized ideas in another group of people (mostly men). As a society we decided that these sexualized thoughts are bad and should be stopped. OK, that’s acceptable. However the method we decided to do that is to tell the women to hide those parts so the other group is not tempted. Problem solved. However woman are being forced to modify themselves by society in order to fix a problem inherently caused by another group. They have no control over how the other group perceives them, so they shouldn’t be the ones having to adjust constantly to others’ perceptions.
It used to be that fat was sexy. Who knows, maybe in the future it will be flat chested. Depending on what men become sexualized by, women have to constantly change their appearance so as not to tempt man.
If you don’t find that ridiculous, let’s sub it out with a similar example. Imagine a group of white people who, whenever they see black people, felt “uncomfortable” because black people in their minds are associated with crime, thugs, etc. Let’s say that, in uncommon instances, the white people felt threatened and may have started fights if the black people looked particularly like criminals, or maybe the black people felt prejudiced and started fights. Let’s say the government’s solution to the problem was to segregate the black people from the white people, but they did so by telling the black people to not live in existing white neighborhoods. Problem solved because the instances of black on white confrontation are abated. Is it fair though? No, because it’s inconveniencing black people in order to solve a problem caused by the view point of white people. Black people can’t control how others view them, and if the problems are inherently caused by those misguided viewpoints then we should be 1) fixing those viewpoints and 2) telling people with those viewpoints to deal with it.
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't really support to ban anything that could be seen as sexual, but if you put it out, some people will always judge you on that merit. It will also net you attention and can overshadow your other feats. Should she be condemned for that? I don't think so. But the engineering feats alone will never be the focus as a consequence.
This seems like a failure of imagination. Or maybe an expectation of seriousness which can only be associated with certain kinds of people who dress and speak a certain way. The reality is that anyone can be really smart and make “serious” contributions and they deserve to be taken seriously regardless of how they choose to dress or present themselves. We have chosen a certain definition of normality and we can choos…
Re: Naomi Wu video demonetized on YouTube
#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
All her recent YouTube videos have cryptocurrency donation addresses for BTC, BCH, LTC, ETH, and XMR (Monero).
You're right! Was on mobile where YT isn't available for me.