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Re: An Experience with Modafinil

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Post by bb88 »

darawk wrote: post #337
inter_netuser wrote: post #173

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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7714788/ >“The mood effects but not the physiological effects of intravenous caffeine were similar to those previously observed with cocaine in studies using similar methods and subjects.” https://archive.fo/bLX94 >This is obviously worrying. “Cocaine is one of the most addictive substances of abuse,” says Volkow. “Ritalin we give to children.” She stresses, however, that taking a stim…

> ....but why would you even try pure i.v. caffeine though? cocaine i can understand, but caffeine? Sometimes when you're an IV drug user and you're out of real drugs, you do weird shit. I had a tub of anhydrous caffeine, had to try it. I get that you think you can disprove things like this with science, and that's generally a good perspective to have. But cocaine and caffeine are nothing alike. It's the difference b…

I must admit, I enjoy using intravenous drugs vicariously through others.

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Post by katbyte »

sauwan wrote: post #217
pengaru wrote: post #82

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> 80% of people couldn't distinguish I.V. cocaine from I.V. caffeine in some study I am unable to locate at the moment, which I think involved Nora Volkow from NIH, either as PI or collaborator. All this tells me is that I'm clearly consuming caffeine incorrectly in the form of coffee and/or tea.

I quit caffeine about 8 years, only having a white tea on occasions. But I love a cup of decaf every so often. One day at work, one of my coworkers swapped the decaf pot with the regular pot and I drank a 16oz mug before I realized what was going on. I was absolutely lit up and it was an incredible experience. I felt utterly amazing. Like I could take on the world. I had a hard time focusing at work, because I just w…

Fairly accurate comparison to cocaine

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Post by samatman »

sk5t wrote: post #346
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Or, and hear me out, people outside of cocaine's traditional region are using it wrong. The past being a different country, I was fortunate in the early Noughts to be able to purchase Bolivian coca tea bags from an early online drug dealer called Amazon dot com. They were a fantastic addition to the tea shelf. I would favor a cup of the coca tea when energy was low going into an evening with social plans. Even, brigh…

> intranasally Should perhaps be insufflation

It should not be insufflation. Intranasal administration is a synonym for nasal administration you'll find in many papers, it's older.

Insufflation is actually a misnomer for nasal administration, insufflation is blowing something into a person for medical reasons, not using vacuum to pull it into the body.

Now, it's a common misnomer, which I generally let pass without correction. But sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander!

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Post by RankingMember »

oceanghost wrote: post #343
RankingMember wrote: post #263

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> You physically cannot sleep on these drugs without something like clonazepam. Please tell my brain this. Around 50% of the time my ADHD meds (Adderall) make me sleepy because, for once, my brain is calm and focused and it's a very relaxing experience as opposed to my typical state.

That just means you have real ADHD. Stimulants can have the opposite effect on people with ADHD.

We're in agreement there. Your original statement did not have this caveat.

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Post by pfortuny »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #262
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Is the score what makes a student a winner, though? That is what parents have to learn to curb.

The score is supposed to be representative of your knowledge in a subject. And the entire point of going to school is to become more knowledgeable in a subject so you can apply it somewhere in your life. If the score was not an indicator, then it serves no purpose.

Well, if success in life is measured by getting the highest score, then we are really doomed.

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Post by ajolly »

samatman wrote: post #227
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Be extremely careful with it. A friend of mine developed some horrifying skin issues after relatively light use.

This is a real and very rare thing. It isn't an "extremely careful" type of situation. It's a "take 50mg first and be aware that skin outbreaks can be caused by modafinil" type of situation. This isn't well understood because there are so few cases, but it's believed to be effectively an allergic/histamine response, and I've never heard of a case of it developing after regular use (sensitization), only initial exposu…

I had severe issues with this, however only with generic armodafinil. Crazy deep bruising all over my body.

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Post by hda111 »

GordonS wrote: post #212
tactile-setter wrote: post #197

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Caffeine and modafinil shouldn’t be compared, as they have vastly different activity, history of use, and understanding of effects. This is merely an anecdote, but I was prescribed modafinil for narcoleptic symptoms. Compared to traditional psychostimulants, I found it to be ineffective with a more severe side effect profile. Of course, YMMV.

As another 2 data points: My brother has narcolepsy, and finds modafinil much better than amphetamines. He says he has zero side effects with modafinil, and it makes him much less jittery than amphetamines. I have CFS, and sometimes need a stimulant if I must stay awake. I've tried amphetamines, but they make me really jittery and a bit anxious and snappy - I feel "tweaked", and it's not pleasant. By contrast, modafi…

Is CFS similar to narcolepsy in that you could fall asleep anytime?

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Post by GordonS »

hda111 wrote: post #358
GordonS wrote: post #212

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As another 2 data points: My brother has narcolepsy, and finds modafinil much better than amphetamines. He says he has zero side effects with modafinil, and it makes him much less jittery than amphetamines. I have CFS, and sometimes need a stimulant if I must stay awake. I've tried amphetamines, but they make me really jittery and a bit anxious and snappy - I feel "tweaked", and it's not pleasant. By contrast, modafi…

Is CFS similar to narcolepsy in that you could fall asleep anytime?

It's quite different in most regards: I'm super-tired all the time, need a nap every afternoon, my endurance is extremely low (lifting a kettle feels like lifting a weight, climbing the stairs feels like climbing a hill) and simple activities tire me out waaay more than they should. If I do anything remotely strenuous, then it does kind of hit me like narcolepsy - within the space of a few seconds I become extremely tired, like I've been drugged, and I have to sleep.

CFS remains a diagnosis of exclusion, and it's quite likely that it's a label that actually represents several conditions, and people are affected to varying degrees - some are bed-bound, for example.

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

tomcam wrote: post #168
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As someone who has done a lot of IV cocaine and coffee I find this hard to believe. IV cocaine is one of the most euphoric highs in the world

Serious question. How do you deal with life when you aren’t high on IV coke? That state sounds so good I’d absolutely get addicted first thing.

The same way you cope with anything, really: You consciously develop a personality that handles whatever you face in life. Some people call this process "growing up". I think it's more spiritual than that.
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