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Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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It's painfully obvious OP is talking about a smart phone and a vax passport. You don't have to be "anti-vax" (which is a stupid stupid term) to be anti-vax-passport. The people pushing for vax passports have no clue what they are unleashing. It is absolutely fascist, evil and incredibly surprising to me that 99% of the people on this website are in 100% favor of it. EVIL.

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Excluding children from education is the exact same thing as excluding minors from consuming alcohol

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Oh yeah, I'm aware. My hopes aren't placed in Europe, I live in Moscow :) It is fascinating that the topic seems to get so little thought in Europe though.

Moscow is in Europe my friend. I guess this is like the Brits who talk about “Europe” as if it was a separate place even though they can literally drive to France.

> Moscow is in Europe my friend

Well, if you're going to get all pedantic, Moscow is actually in Asia.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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The TV show Upload [1] has a group of people dubbed the "Ludds" (i.e. Luddites) that refuse to be party to the turn that the technological revolution has taken and stick to traditional ways of doing things. I strongly believe if that were to happen in our world today, much of Silicon Valley would be "Ludds", while a mass of non-tech people would happily welcome our new technological overlords. [1]: https://www.imdb.c…

In times of frustration with the modern Internet, I've often sympathized with the Amish. For those unfamiliar, the Amish are a religious-society that avoid the conveniences of modern technology. They live in houses without electricity, and travel by in horse and buggy. It's sort of like they hit a point in history and saw where the world was going and decided, "nah, we're ok, we like how things are now." When frustra…

I submit that the Amish have been successful in their efforts because they have a unifying transcendent value system that gives their group cohesion and purpose. Secular efforts will quickly dissolve into warring sub-tribes.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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This fills me with dread, resentment and anger. I wanted a future where I would be the master of technology, and what I am getting instead is more of the "I can't let you do this, Dave" vibe. I want to live in a community of individuals, not be subjugated to whatever happens to feed the anxieties and neuroses of society. Is there... will there be a way to resist this obscenity?

> not be subjugated to whatever happens to feed the anxieties and neuroses of society. That’s awfully vague. Are specters doing this to you? Seems that some power analysis is in order.

Even before covid, when it turned out that society wants to track my movements or to reward and punish me based on my medical history, it could easily be swayed with such words as "pedophile ", "terrorists", or "drugs". So much so that it might want to be able to monitor my private messaging (and prevent its encryption) to make sure that I am neither a pedophile, nor a terrorist; or might want to check my social media profiles at the border to make sure I haven't expressed any sympathies to a terrorist organisation. Today, it also seems to be eager to do things to fight "misinformation". I am sure more examples can be provided.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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> much of Silicon Valley would be "Ludds" Bullshit. Much of Silicon Valley likes to think they would be Ludds but they do so while hailing an Uber from their iPhone and hoping that their DoorDash is devlivered on time so they can eat while they watch a HBO Max show and they hope that nobody stole their Amazon Prime package.

I think it applies more along the lines of "free" products where "you are the product" comes into play. It may entirely be biased based on who I know, but I know more tech people who refuse to have a Facebook because of tracking than I do non-tech people.

In my experience, a disproportionate number of engineers also refuse to own Alexas.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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What? Literally everywhere that requires a vax card accepts paper versions too

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HN should let brand new accounts comment once a week for the first 6 months.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Moscow is in Europe my friend. I guess this is like the Brits who talk about “Europe” as if it was a separate place even though they can literally drive to France.

> Moscow is in Europe my friend Well, if you're going to get all pedantic, Moscow is actually in Asia.

It is not. Russia West of the Ural Mountains is in Europe. Siberia is the Asian part.

If you want to be pedantic.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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> I'm using "Europe" largely in the sense of "influence sphere of EU/Germany". So say that.

It's close enough to what people generally mean when they say Europe. I consider Norway to be part of Europe, for instance, and I'm a Norwegian. Although there are certainly subtle distinctions; Norway has a higher degree of North-Atlantic cultural heritage, has economic interests that contrast with those of continental Europe and aren't formally part of the EU. You could make similar remarks for many countries that…

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