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Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by coding123 »

choeger wrote: post #18

We are long beyond that point, sadly. We are right now in the process of a) becoming legally required to own and carry a particular kind of device and b) being legally unable to fully control said device and c) having that device explicitly working (again by legal requirement) against our own interests It will be interesting to watch how things will progress and whether governments or corporations will be the ones ho…

a) That device seems to be a gun in my neck of the woods.

b) The device is FULLY controllable by me I can guarantee that.

c) I am glad it does, though this particular one isn't against my own personal interests.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by marvin »

avgcorrection wrote: post #75
tazjin wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using "Europe" largely in the sense of "influence sphere of EU/Germany". I'd count the UK (and countries like Norway, Switzerland) into this influence sphere, even if they're not officially members.

> I'm using "Europe" largely in the sense of "influence sphere of EU/Germany". So say that.

It's close enough to what people generally mean when they say Europe. I consider Norway to be part of Europe, for instance, and I'm a Norwegian. Although there are certainly subtle distinctions; Norway has a higher degree of North-Atlantic cultural heritage, has economic interests that contrast with those of continental Europe and aren't formally part of the EU.

You could make similar remarks for many countries that would generally get a 'yes' to the question "is X a European country".

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by all2 »

AyyWS wrote: post #59
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #53

Snowden is twitting from Moscow. Russians in a similar position have been formally labeled "foreign agents", imprisoned, or worse. I'm wondering how Snowden managed to avoid a similar fate.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by sgc »

heyitsguay wrote: post #79
weljlkjlkerg wrote: post #68

It's painfully obvious OP is talking about a smart phone and a vax passport. You don't have to be "anti-vax" (which is a stupid stupid term) to be anti-vax-passport. The people pushing for vax passports have no clue what they are unleashing. It is absolutely fascist, evil and incredibly surprising to me that 99% of the people on this website are in 100% favor of it. EVIL.

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The other day I was driving recklessly down the road, minding my own business, and an officer asked me for documents showing I had performed my due diligence to drive on a public road without endangering others. Truly we have lost the fight already. As long as I am only thinking of myself, doing my own thing, nobody should bother me - it's private!

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by Quigglez »

weljlkjlkerg wrote: post #68

It's painfully obvious OP is talking about a smart phone and a vax passport. You don't have to be "anti-vax" (which is a stupid stupid term) to be anti-vax-passport. The people pushing for vax passports have no clue what they are unleashing. It is absolutely fascist, evil and incredibly surprising to me that 99% of the people on this website are in 100% favor of it. EVIL.

I want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. When I hear people say "vaccine passport" I assume they mean "COVID-19 vaccination documentation". Is that a correct interpretation, or does a vaccine passport mean something more? If it is just "COVID-19 vaccination documentation", has there been a push to not allow the paper documentation? I've been primarily using my paper documentation without issue. As far as I'm aware, digital access to your vaccination status is simply a nice to have redundancy.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by jaywalk »

avgcorrection wrote: post #78
weljlkjlkerg wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can anyone say the past 2 years of covid-19? Please don't feign naivety. It is a distraction to critical thought.

I know that it wasn’t the “anxieties and neuroses of society” that controlled the COVID-related policy decisions. Only a fool would think that.

Well, the “anxieties and neuroses of society” are the only reason we're still forced to wear cloth masks in certain places, so...

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by all2 »

ovi256 wrote: post #24
sh4un wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Make people who go to work have to share their income with those who don't want to work.

Most people already share with those they want to share with. How would you convince them to share with more ?

I think GP is a sarcastic comment.

Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out

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Post by coding123 »

karaterobot wrote: post #85

In one HN thread, people complain about the U.S. not forcing people to get vaccinated, and in another thread it's about how the U.S. is becoming an authoritarian state. I take no position on these arguments, I just get spun around trying to track whether the U.S. is being overrun by libertarians or authoritarians sometimes.

I SAW THAT TOO! LOL
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