But how will we create our utopia?
You can start by banning vax passports. .... as a start.
The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
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Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#72It's painfully obvious OP is talking about a smart phone and a vax passport. You don't have to be "anti-vax" (which is a stupid stupid term) to be anti-vax-passport. The people pushing for vax passports have no clue what they are unleashing. It is absolutely fascist, evil and incredibly surprising to me that 99% of the people on this website are in 100% favor of it. EVIL.
What? Literally everywhere that requires a vax card accepts paper versions too
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#73The problem are the people who are blindly following along and calling the other 50% white supremacists for not following along. I think people are starting to give little credit to the tinfoil hat people because maybe out of all of us, their brand of crazy has merit.
We are talking about a global issue; political/cultural divisions that are for the most part confined to the US are not "the problem". Even within the US mass-surveillance predates the current political climate.
Vax passports most definitely are not confined to the US.
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#74We are long beyond that point, sadly. We are right now in the process of a) becoming legally required to own and carry a particular kind of device and b) being legally unable to fully control said device and c) having that device explicitly working (again by legal requirement) against our own interests It will be interesting to watch how things will progress and whether governments or corporations will be the ones ho…
This fills me with dread, resentment and anger. I wanted a future where I would be the master of technology, and what I am getting instead is more of the "I can't let you do this, Dave" vibe. I want to live in a community of individuals, not be subjugated to whatever happens to feed the anxieties and neuroses of society. Is there... will there be a way to resist this obscenity?
No, the reason you see this increasing control is because people dont' want to give a small minority the ability to fuck up the rest of society. There is nowhere go to on Earth, because the entire world is spoken for.
Hence why people will settle space. It's treated as a pie in the sky joke today, but once it's "affordable" (ie, 250K per ticket) many people will go. Long term, it'll be an essential pressure release valve, as various discontents and dissidents go there to try and build their own versions of society. And that's great, the rest of us will just sit here trading freedoms for comfort and everyone will be happy.
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Moscow is in Europe my friend. I guess this is like the Brits who talk about “Europe” as if it was a separate place even though they can literally drive to France.
I'm using "Europe" largely in the sense of "influence sphere of EU/Germany". I'd count the UK (and countries like Norway, Switzerland) into this influence sphere, even if they're not officially members.
> I'm using "Europe" largely in the sense of "influence sphere of EU/Germany".
So say that.
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Edward Snowden @Snowden This is not a drill. Matthew Green @matthew_d_green Reminder to Silicon Valley: there’s an even chance that many governments in the world will be run by authoritarian movements in the future. Your window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out.
Ok, that's just a copy paste, but the message is: Encrypt all the things (no backdoors) so your civilians can't be spied on and their vital communications can't be disrupted. Right? That's the message (again)? I mean I agree, and I use services accordingly (Signal, NextCloud, Home Assistant) but, is there a special reason why he is saying it now, with some urgency? Did something happen?
In terms of "Did something happen?" there's a fair number of examples of governments both failing and succeeding at strong arming tech companies for intelligence/defense/etc. However, the big event you seem worried about is a predicted near future event hasn't happened yet. Like a tech equivalent of climate change, all the little things over the years add up to one big urgent thing.
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#77I'm sorry, but appealing to companies makes no sense. For one, it is against their financial interests, and second, if it can be introduced, it can be reversed. He should appeal to the media instead: they should make people aware not how much control they are giving away now, but how dangerous it can become in the future. But it seems to me very few people would listen or care.
> But it seems to me very few people would listen or care.
Everybody cares, they just understand that they're powerless to change anything. The companies in question and the media share ownership.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> not be subjugated to whatever happens to feed the anxieties and neuroses of society. That’s awfully vague. Are specters doing this to you? Seems that some power analysis is in order.
Can anyone say the past 2 years of covid-19? Please don't feign naivety. It is a distraction to critical thought.
I know that it wasn’t the “anxieties and neuroses of society” that controlled the COVID-related policy decisions. Only a fool would think that.
Re: The window to deploy surveillance-resistant systems is running out
#79It's painfully obvious OP is talking about a smart phone and a vax passport. You don't have to be "anti-vax" (which is a stupid stupid term) to be anti-vax-passport. The people pushing for vax passports have no clue what they are unleashing. It is absolutely fascist, evil and incredibly surprising to me that 99% of the people on this website are in 100% favor of it. EVIL.
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