If you're anything like me, or anything like 90% of humanity, you can't rely on motivation to progress in life (whatever your idea of progression is). None of the platitudes or self-help-shaped advice you read here or on Reddit will help you with that. You can't trick yourself. What works for me is, as much as I don't like the word, discipline. I take an hour every week to review my routine and plans, when I'm inspir…
Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
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Re: Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
#82Exercise. Try daily rigorous cardio workout for 30 minutes a day. AFAIK the brain releases endorphins or something when you exercise, so you actually get a high out of exercising (in addition to getting fitter). Do it in the morning so that you'll feel good till noon atleast. Once you're in a good mood positive things will start happening. Cheers :)
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#83Oh, I love this question! And I love when I find myself in situations like this - although it happens more and more rarely as I age. The answer, of course, is: perspective. And there are all sorts of ways to shift your perspective, but the general heuristic is to step back, zoom out, and talk to yourself in broader, more generic terms. Details are your enemy when you're in a rut (although they turn into your best fri…
There’s a couple of different kinds of “rut,” though:
1) Ennui
The project has become a “slog,” and I am tired of the grind.
This happens pretty much daily, for me.
2) Burnout Is this my life? Where did I go wrong? Should I just pack it in?
This tends to happen as the project nears completion, and I’m “polishing the fenders.” The work is more “rote,” the bugs are harder to find, and I get disgusted, by looking at my code.
If it is #1, then “taking a short break” usually works. I may take a short nap, watch some TV, go out for a meal, play a video game, take a walk, etc. A change of scenery can do wonders.If it is #2, then I need to take a more significant “break.” I will often find an alternate project to work on. Many folks will take a vacation. Coming back can be difficult, but, once I’m fully engaged, again, I find I am back to full sail.
I tend to work on alternate projects. I find it invigorating, and keeps me “in the swing.” That does not work for many folks, as they need a far more comprehensive “change of scenery.” I know folks that go on wilderness vacations.
I actually did a #2 break, the last couple of days. I have been working on a project for the last year, and we are approaching ship (still a ways off, but we can see it, from here). I was starting to feel quite “burnt.” As you approach “ship,” the work becomes a lot more “picky,” you have to say “no” to other team members, and you start to feel the responsibility, settling on your shoulders.
I took on a Web site project. I’m not a Web designer, by trade, but I do OK. It took me a couple of days.
It was one of those projects, where things had been allowed to “rot,” and I was cleaning up a “mess.” Gave me an excuse to grouse and rant, while I got the site back on its feet. I do a lot of volunteer work.
I’m done, and will be getting back to the main project, now. I’m looking forward to it.
One big problem, is that employers tend to take a dim view of employees “taking a break.” This is especially true of #2.
In that case, you may not have a choice. It can profoundly affect the quality of the deliverable. The employer needs to get with reality. It may not happen; especially if they are “self-made” type As (like many startup founders). Large corporations tend to be better than small shops.
I’m semi-retired. I can do what I want. I did not have that luxury, before.
Re: Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
#84Exercise. Try daily rigorous cardio workout for 30 minutes a day. AFAIK the brain releases endorphins or something when you exercise, so you actually get a high out of exercising (in addition to getting fitter). Do it in the morning so that you'll feel good till noon atleast. Once you're in a good mood positive things will start happening. Cheers :)
I've tried having rigorous trainings in the morning for weeks and the only thing that happens is that I feel tired for the rest of the day.
Only late-night trainings before bed work for me.
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#86Usual culprit - your brain's dopamine circuits are fried by your daily activities like endless phone browsing, video games etc. Cut down on dopamine junk and you'll find motivation without any effort.
Re: Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
#87Exercise. Try daily rigorous cardio workout for 30 minutes a day. AFAIK the brain releases endorphins or something when you exercise, so you actually get a high out of exercising (in addition to getting fitter). Do it in the morning so that you'll feel good till noon atleast. Once you're in a good mood positive things will start happening. Cheers :)
> AFAIK the brain releases endorphins or something when you exercise People tell me this all the time, but when I exercise I just feel tired afterwards? Maybe it only happens to people who are fit who have a history of exercising regularly?
> People tell me this all the time, but when I exercise I just feel tired afterwards?
Okay, to normalize the discussion, consider stationary biking. For me I get the aforementioned high only when I exercise for atleast 30 minutes.
If I do it for just 20 or 15 minutes (instead of > 30 minutes), then as you said I just feel tired rather than good. I guess there's some threshold before you start feeling good, and this is probably different for different humans. Being the petrolhead that I am, I think of it like a turbo-lag followed by the turbo-kick.
> it only happens to people who are fit
I'm definitely not fit (though I'm not obese either) :)
> who have a history of exercising regularly? No there's a tolerance thing I think, based on what I read in [1]. So in the long run you need to exercise more to get that same level of feeling good.
[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/3025957/what-happens-to-our-brai... (I don't know whether or not the person who wrote this article is an expert.)
Re: Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
#88Exercise. Try daily rigorous cardio workout for 30 minutes a day. AFAIK the brain releases endorphins or something when you exercise, so you actually get a high out of exercising (in addition to getting fitter). Do it in the morning so that you'll feel good till noon atleast. Once you're in a good mood positive things will start happening. Cheers :)
I exercise regularly for years. Weight lifting, rock climbing, HIIT at home. I've tried having rigorous trainings in the morning for weeks and the only thing that happens is that I feel tired for the rest of the day. Only late-night trainings before bed work for me.
Do what works for you. Cheers mate.
Re: Ask HN: How do you get out of a rut?
#89More positively, basic life management may provide a way forward. Make a list of all the things that are interesting to you. Whenever you are bored or without direction review the list for opportunities. That may mean entries in the list itself or any entry there. Most of the time there is some avenue for exploration and value generation that you already know has potential and also fits the mood and moment.
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#90Wait, isn't that what daytime is for?
Get out. Play games. Read. Write. Ride a bike. Build something with your hands, with code, whatever. Hit the gym. Cook complicated dishes. Go to restaurants. Join a club and make some friends. Even sleep more.
You need to find what you like to do with your time, and truth is it's probably not what you want it to be. Picking up hobbies and mastering them is what drives a lot of people through life. If that interacts positively with $DAYJOB, that's great but it's rare.
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Having read some of the other replies now, it's slightly disturbing how many of them draw to one of two conclusions: there's something chemically wrong with you, or you've made a massive mistake in life and you need to immediately change every decision you've made up to this point.
Sometimes life lulls. Unless there is something wrong —and yes professional assessment might help here— making massive and/or pharmacological changes to your life might be worse than just riding it out.
I'd personally just shoot for happy first. Treat this as burnout —as anybody working might call it— and take small corrective measures to improve you. If you need an extension to your studies, you can get an extension to your studies. Life isn't going to leave you behind.