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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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If you told me when I signed up for gsuite that Microsoft would turn into Google and Google would turn into Microsoft and I would have to migrate to o365, I would have laughed at you.

You're only half right: Google turned into Microsoft, but Microsoft didn't turn into Google. They only turned into Microsoft with an old-Google image.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

You see how things change in perspective depending where you are in the world. Google cost would be nowhere near a coffee per month. If I consider my family, the 4 of us, the cost would be equivalent to going 1 extra week per month to the supermarket. Per year terms? It would be like saving the money to spend a weekend at the beach at a nice hotel once a year. I want that money for me!

Edit: I'm in Brazil BTW.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#973
This thread, and many others like it, is a goldmine of handy tips. We have links to providers, solid evidence of migration success and plenty more. However, it's not a great resource at the moment. If anyone has time to collate the tips, links, articles of methods etc into a wiki we (the community of g suites) can help our fellows. A collaborative tips doc will help us all out.

Also the g suite support doc now says a tool will be coming that can migrate purchases to regular G accounts. They've listened (a bit).

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Migrating to another email provider might be a pain when it comes to importing older mailbox content, but any of the alternative email providers would be way cheaper in the long run. I use Protonmail for myself and around 5 others, with close to 10 mailboxes. I highly recommend it. Not sure what's available from them re. importing older mailboxes - I've never done it - but everything I've used jas been fantastic. Pro…

Microsoft has a Gmail migration tool. not sure if MS is cheaper, but it is stupid easy and fast to migrate from Gmail/gsuite to o365. just plug in credentials and hit run. I've moved small businesses on gsuite free, multiple personal gmails over using their tool, and I have not had an issue in the dozen or so corps I moved

Doesn't that only work on the business plans? (Not the family plans that are 6 users for $99/yr)

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I find the inability to transfer my paid Android apps and Youtube purchases to a free Gmail account quite egregious. GSuite already had lesser consumer functionality than regular Gmail accounts, at least let us transfer over our purchases.

It is quite egregious that purchases in app stores cannot be migrated but as far as FAQ states, you don't lose access to that Google account and as such you don't lose access to the purchased content. You just lose access to the email and productivity suite. Think of the scenario where you sign up to a Google account using a Hotmail account: you can make Google apps/content purchases in that account

The FAQ didn't say that when the news first came out; it must have been updated due to backlash.

As a side note, I still haven't gotten an email notification of this days later. If it wasn't for HN I wouldn't have known Google was cancelling legacy G Suite at all.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I never moved to the free GSuite and I'm glad. I have everything at my domain forward to me@mydomain.com and that goes to my gmail address. Then GMail is set up to send mail out through my domain's email server to retain the illusion.

How did you configure the forwarding from "me@mydomain.com" to your gmail address? Just using your registrars email forwarding options?

My webhost, Dreamhost. It's a configuration option in their mail transfer agent.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

#977
Google put users like me in a painful situation, I'm not using more than gmail and now forced to pay for everything they offering. Attracting ppl by offering free eco system and later forcing them to pay isn't something except by Google and must have to support their early adopters.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…

> It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. Years later and I still don't use Google (except for search and sometimes maps) because of Reader.

Isn’t search the most important part of Google? And in a way, everything they do is usually to get you to use Google Search (Chrome, Android, etc).

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I have considered moving to iCloud as well. How do you find the UX? It has been a decade+ since I used the Mail app but I don’t have fond memories.

I find it cumbersome. I have a custom domain on iCloud and it's terrible for checking the mail from web browser (which I need to do whilst at work). Not only that. the 2FA requirement is particularly bad. You cannot use 2FA apps (such as authenticator.cc / bitwarden / 1password); the requirement is having an apple device that you have physically signed in on before to be able to allow you to log in. Every single time…

I absolutely hate Google and Apple’s 2FA of verifying with a diff device. So annoying.

I don’t need to check mail by web browser though. So maybe I’ll do it.

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