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Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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I'm red-green colorblind, and for this reason was never allowed in accounting at work. I kid, but it sure does surprise me that so much of the world uses red/green to visualize! Passive-aggressive fun fact: roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness.

8% seems shockingly high, if that's true then it's also shocking how little effort seems to be made to compensate for colorblindness.

Why aren't Emojis presented differently depending on type of colorblindness for example?

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

#24

TL;DR: Because emojis are of Japanese origin and (east)asian countries use red for profit and green for loss.

It goes a little bit deeper than this as well! Red is typically associated with fortune, luck, or prosperity for many Asian countries that were historically Chinese culture such as Japan and Korea. Think about any Lunar New Year celebration and the handing out of lucky money in red envelopes. The lines used in financial charts are actually are further classified as the "Yin Line" and "Yang Line", which you may know from the Taoist philosophy of Yin (literally "dark") and Yang (literally "light").

So in this cultural sphere of influence, you'll most often see the positive lines as red (good/fortune/yang), and the negative line as either green, black, or blue (dark/bad/yin). [1][2]

[1] https://i.stack.imgur.com/jdDPC.png [2] https://i.stack.imgur.com/w77KK.png

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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It is kinda funny to see the trajectories that the different companies pick. Samsung is the only one that puts a little negative blip at the end of theirs. Apple shows a little blip at the beginning, followed by what appears to be endless, inevitable increase. From 2013-2015, Microsoft put stagnation toward the end of theirs, but then a tiny optimistic increasing trend at the end. However, starting in 2017 they decid…

Eh, since COVID, graphs that are going down are interpreted as positive.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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It is kinda funny to see the trajectories that the different companies pick. Samsung is the only one that puts a little negative blip at the end of theirs. Apple shows a little blip at the beginning, followed by what appears to be endless, inevitable increase. From 2013-2015, Microsoft put stagnation toward the end of theirs, but then a tiny optimistic increasing trend at the end. However, starting in 2017 they decid…

This doesn't seem to have a history, but a fun page to waste some time on none the less: https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html#1f4b9

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #23
post #21

I'm red-green colorblind, and for this reason was never allowed in accounting at work. I kid, but it sure does surprise me that so much of the world uses red/green to visualize! Passive-aggressive fun fact: roughly 8% of men have some colorblindness.

8% seems shockingly high, if that's true then it's also shocking how little effort seems to be made to compensate for colorblindness. Why aren't Emojis presented differently depending on type of colorblindness for example?

> if that's true then it's also shocking how little effort seems to be made to compensate for colorblindness.

Note that making something accessible to colorblindness doesn't mean you can't use color, it means you can't use color to differentiate. So a graph with a red line is fine, as long as the color isn't what tells you if the movement is positive or negative (and the graph is the magnitude, if that makes sense).

Red numbers on a excel sheet are probably fine too, as long as there is some other signifier on the cell that says "this is bad" (like parentheses or a negative sign).

Green/Yellow/Red lights on a status dashboard can violate accessibility, unless there's text or a shape that goes along with it.

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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Random question: Why are there so many emoji "implementations"? I understand copyright, but is it really cheaper/easier/preferable for all these different companies to design their own emojis?

For the same reason that there are many fonts. Unicode only defines codepoints, like "UPSIDE-DOWN FACE U+1F643", similar to how it only defines "U+0041 LATIN CAPITAL A". I for one believe it was a very stupid idea to standardize emoji, but here we are.

I think standardization opened a whole new way of communication but yeah some parts are messed up

Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?

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post #7

Random question: Why are there so many emoji "implementations"? I understand copyright, but is it really cheaper/easier/preferable for all these different companies to design their own emojis?

For the same reason that there are many fonts. Unicode only defines codepoints, like "UPSIDE-DOWN FACE U+1F643", similar to how it only defines "U+0041 LATIN CAPITAL A". I for one believe it was a very stupid idea to standardize emoji, but here we are.

While emoji may seem trivial, I see no reason why it shouldn't be standardized. It is a widely used method of text communication with a large number of common symbols.
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