Are there localized "fonts" for emoji? i.e. Could Apple display the chart in green on iPhones with western system languages, and red on iPhones with Japanese set as the language? Surely this is not the only example where different cultures conceptualize the concepts behind emoji differently. Another (potentially touchy) example would be automatically adding / removing a hijab for emoji featuring women in Arabic iPhones.
Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
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Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#12If you like shapes and colors of charts, you may like the mobile game "The Firm"
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#13Well the “chart decreasing” emoji is blue. So that whole thing about Japanese stock exchange is wrong…
If these colour meanings are older than ~80 years (presumably they are), then maybe the association is between aka (red) for increases and ao (grue) for decreases, or in English, both green and blue for decreases.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#14Are there localized "fonts" for emoji? i.e. Could Apple display the chart in green on iPhones with western system languages, and red on iPhones with Japanese set as the language? Surely this is not the only example where different cultures conceptualize the concepts behind emoji differently. Another (potentially touchy) example would be automatically adding / removing a hijab for emoji featuring women in Arabic iPhon…
my thoughts exactly. another example would be the "Japanese post office"[1] which has a symbol "〒" for japanese postal mark. There is a "european post office"[2] emoji as well with a brass horn on it. Both are meaningless to North and South Americans (correct me if I'm wrong).
[1]: https://emojipedia.org/japanese-post-office/ [2]: https://emojipedia.org/european-post-office/
note: notice how /european-post-office redirects to /post-office
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#15Well the “chart decreasing” emoji is blue. So that whole thing about Japanese stock exchange is wrong…
It depends on the font. Some fonts have it in red, some in blue, some in green, some in orange. I think it's reasonable to think that cultural differences played a part in the variety of colours used by different fonts.
They seem to be gravitating towards blue (specifically, the colour most westerners consider blue), though.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#16Are there localized "fonts" for emoji? i.e. Could Apple display the chart in green on iPhones with western system languages, and red on iPhones with Japanese set as the language? Surely this is not the only example where different cultures conceptualize the concepts behind emoji differently. Another (potentially touchy) example would be automatically adding / removing a hijab for emoji featuring women in Arabic iPhon…
The answer to this is kinda complicated.
In general terms, it is Apple's OS, and they can do whatever they want on it – so yes, they could display a green chart in some countries. I don't think any platform does something like this today, but it wouldn't be too crazy to add.
If we want to talk standards, the Unicode Consortium defines the emoji set as well as loose guidelines on how they should be displayed. The platform implementing them is free to choose the specific designs and pixels, however, so nothing wrong with a red or green chart (or both).
Going into technical details, an emoji is a unicode character (or set of characters). There can't be different "emoji languages" since emoji is a language. There can be fonts that render different emojis differently, but it would be interesting/weird to interplay that with regular text fonts that you may otherwise use in the same document. And then do you allow users to switch emoji fonts? Or use different emoji fonts at the same time in the same block of text?
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#17For a fun experiment, try Google finance with the Japanese language tag (https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=ja). Even knowing about the switched colors, it still fools my eyes. Goes to show how deeply ingrained the usual red/green assignment is!
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#18Are there localized "fonts" for emoji? i.e. Could Apple display the chart in green on iPhones with western system languages, and red on iPhones with Japanese set as the language? Surely this is not the only example where different cultures conceptualize the concepts behind emoji differently. Another (potentially touchy) example would be automatically adding / removing a hijab for emoji featuring women in Arabic iPhon…
my thoughts exactly. another example would be the "Japanese post office"[1] which has a symbol "〒" for japanese postal mark. There is a "european post office"[2] emoji as well with a brass horn on it. Both are meaningless to North and South Americans (correct me if I'm wrong). [1]: https://emojipedia.org/japanese-post-office/ [2]: https://emojipedia.org/european-post-office/ note: notice how /european-post-office red…
The Japanese post office symbol could almost be a Tesla dealership, to American eyeballs.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#19> Meanwhile, green is used to represent decreases in stock value.
Okay. Now explain why the "chart decreasing" emoji is blue instead of green.
Re: Why does the "chart increasing" emoji show in red?
#20Funnily enough, the Japanese word for "(business) deficit" is literally "red letters" (赤字): https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%B5%A4%E5%AD%97
(Wiktionary says it was borrowed from English - no idea if it's true.)