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The next big Wi-Fi standard is for sensing, not communication (2021)

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Re: The next big Wi-Fi standard is for sensing, not communication (2021)

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There's potential for visible-light networking but the Li-Fi people in particular are complete garbage. They claim visible light travels faster than radio waves and say Li-Fi is a hundred times faster than wi-fi but their thousand dollar router can only do 100Mb/s. They also rip off the Wi-Fi Alliance logo.

Which Li-fi people? AFAICT there are several groups, and li-fi.co (which I'll assume you're talking about) is less advertising for one specific group, and more advocating for the technology as a whole. > They claim visible light travels faster than radio waves I wasn't able to find it on the lifi website but seems like some poor copywriter got something wrong > their thousand dollar router can only do 100Mb/s Who's t…

https://lifi.co/lifi-vs-wifi/

Another big advantage of LiFi is that the usage of light allows LiFi connections to occur almost instantaneously because light travels at extremely fast speeds. This results in faster transmission of data and faster internet connections – about 100 times faster than speeds achievable by WiFi.

https://lifi.co/lifi-products/lifimax/

$1098 Guaranteed fast data transfer with 100 Mbps download & 100 Mbps upload.

Re: The next big Wi-Fi standard is for sensing, not communication (2021)

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Buying copper mesh from shop is far more accessible to average user than setting up TOR relay.

You can find out if TOR is work8ng by typing in 'what is my IP' into google. How do you know if your sepf made faray cage is leaking? Are you going to get an expensive spectrum analiser? Do you know how to use it? I can go on the street and find a random person who understands networking withing 10 minutes. I have never met a RF engineer in my life.

> How do you know if your sepf made faray cage is leaking?

Using ruler. If holes are smaller than 5mm, it will block 60Ghz.

Re: The next big Wi-Fi standard is for sensing, not communication (2021)

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Oh, I have been dreaming about LiFi for some time, if what you're saying it's true, that's... disappointing. Do you have any sources about the current state of (real-world) LiFi ?

Literally their website.

It does not address the issues outlined by parent at all

Re: The next big Wi-Fi standard is for sensing, not communication (2021)

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Yes, and? 5 and 6 GHz already struggle with thick walls (like those found between units in apartment buildings). Presence detection is one thing, but you can't see what I'm having for lunch through several walls with a single 2.4 GHz AP. 500 terahertz = 600 nm (visible light) 60 gigahertz = 5 mm 6 gigahertz = 50 mm 5 gigahertz = 60 mm 2.4 gigahertz = 125 mm

“Yes and” - Unless 2.4 and 5 GHz are taken off the standard, my router will see me through the walls. - At 60 GHz, if I have wifi, my router can see me - To make our concerns clear to you, even at 125 mm resolution, you can tell if I like my wife to drill my bottom with a strap on. Or you can tell if I piously say my prayers at night (something that is increasingly political). Or if the immigrant next door spanks his…

> Or if the immigrant next door spanks his kids.

Plenty of non-immigrants (won't even dignify that with a label like Americans, because immigrants can become Americans too) spank their kids or hit their wives etc....

I think your fears are real, but I also think it's important to be careful with your examples :)

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