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Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

xyzzyz wrote: post #190
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #115

How come nobody mentions France in the comments? :) I am French but have been working 12 years for a very large US company , spent a lot of time in the US, go friends there - an witnessed/helped several Americans moving to France. Salary and healthcare were already covered. The fact that over a 3 days drive across Europe you visit 4 or 5 countries with vastly different cultures is a big plus. And by vastly I mean rea…

> They won't (usually) go to school on Wednesday. That’s very interesting. Do French people typically try to set up some care arrangement, or just leave the kids at home? When I grew up in Poland, if my school was doing that, my parents would most likely just have us stay at home alone (starting from grade 1), but I imagine this would be rather uncommon thing to do in US these days.

It is relatively common to have a parent (usually the mother) to work 4/5 days to account for the Wednesday day off.

There are also city-ran "youth centers" (centre de loisirs) where you can park your child for that day.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by shankr »

Oddskar wrote: post #344
shankr wrote: post #243

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And I know lot of people still living with their parents - especially in Southern European countries.

Right. Which speaks to that "European city" is perhaps a bit of an overly broad concept for it to be useful.

And the thing is the people from these "European city" aren't low wage burger flipping workers. They are educated Phds, devs who struggle to live on their own or own a house.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by bogomipz »

boffinAudio wrote: post #158
wbsss4412 wrote: post #141

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> LA is a car-centric sprawling cesspool. Even for the US, it’s uniquely terrible. LA isn’t even the worst in that regard (I’d take LA over DFW) I don’t know where you are from, but LA is actually representative of large swaths of the US, and highlights some of the best things about America (namely multiculturalism and diversity)

True. I did love the multicultural aspect of Los Angeles, but it got blown to pieces during 9/11, and once the hatred and the flags came out, it was definitely time to leave .. But for many years I considered LA to be a very fine example of people living together, relatively peaceful. Well, after the RK riots, that is ..

If you moved out of LA 20 years ago and lived there for 15 years you would not have lived in LA at the time of Rodney King incident and the LA Riots which was in 1992. As such you have no basis or credibility to make commentary and comparisons between LA before versus after the Riots. As someone who was there before, during and after I can say you have no idea what you are talking about. There was no momentous shift or even appreciable difference in LA in the aftermath of the riots. Further the "multicultural aspect of Los Angeles" did most certainly not get "blown to pieces." The weeks after 9/11 the palpable feeling was one of introspection, unity and kindness. So much so that the joke was it was starting to make people uncomfortable.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by bwb »

TameAntelope wrote: post #273
bwb wrote: post #261

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This quote nails on the head what is wrong with the USA "Because I'm wealthy". Being wealthy at the cost of providing a good society for everyone is what is wrong with America. We could have a society where people have a safety net and work/life balance, and also have wealthy people. I grew up in Fayetteville AR watching my family struggle at multiple times... especially over health care emergencies. Ultimately this…

I'd be happy to give more if I knew it wasn't going to people like who live in Harrison (for example). They deserve to rot in poverty for their regressive, racist views, and the hate the spews from that town and out into the rest of America. They do so much more damage than I ever could by making a good living.

You are describing a symptom not a problem. If you give people time and space to think, for their kids not to be stuck in poverty cycles, and for them to learn that Fox news is fear based propaganda this is how things get fixed.

All Americans are stuck in a perpetual guerilla war that is American society, and until that changes nothing will change.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by wbsss4412 »

bogomipz wrote: post #353
boffinAudio wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. I did love the multicultural aspect of Los Angeles, but it got blown to pieces during 9/11, and once the hatred and the flags came out, it was definitely time to leave .. But for many years I considered LA to be a very fine example of people living together, relatively peaceful. Well, after the RK riots, that is ..

If you moved out of LA 20 years ago and lived there for 15 years you would not have lived in LA at the time of Rodney King incident and the LA Riots which was in 1992. As such you have no basis or credibility to make commentary and comparisons between LA before versus after the Riots. As someone who was there before, during and after I can say you have no idea what you are talking about. There was no momentous shift…

I haven’t spent enough time in LA to comment on the rest of your post but 2022 - 20 years = 2002; 2002 - 15 years = 1987, which was before 1992.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by exdsq »

talideon wrote: post #79
jokethrowaway wrote: post #63

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The wait is really months. Also the quality of the NHS is pretty bad. The NHS being great is the usual state-backed propaganda you can hear in a lot of other European countries to justify spending all that tax money on healthcare. Just from my personal experience: They skipped some safety measures they were supposed to follow during a birth delivery, they dealt terribly with one of my newborns after birth, they recom…

> Also the quality of the NHS is pretty bad. The NHS being great is the usual state backed propaganda you can hear in a lot of other European countries. Not really. The NHS itself and the various NHS trusts have been continuously drained of funding over the past few decades. The NHS runs on a shoestring. If you want things to improve, Tory cuts need to be rolled back.

I like the NHS but it is a massive cash hole. I don't believe it could ever be fixed with more money - it's already the seventh largest employer in the world in a fairly small country. The issue is in its red-tape, middle-management inflation, and odd mix of both centralization and decentralization in regards to how the trusts are split up. I have a friend who runs a nursing ward in a major university hospital and they have something like four different data entry tools to get patients information because different GPs use different tools in and out of a specific trust. Communication runs over different tools. I once worked on a project for the NHS to do with flexible scheduling using agencies to bump admin/nursing teams when needed which consisted of a csv file, without a header or documentation, appearing in a folder that would then be consumed and with some guess work actioned. This isn't a crazy example of how the NHS works, I've seen worse, but the idea that an entire hospital functioned from this undocumented unknown csv file just made my mind blow.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by xmunoz »

Yes, I did this a couple of years ago. I moved from the Bay Area to Germany.

Biggest sacrifices: Germany is an ethnic monoculture, and Germans aren't too friendly with darker-skinned foreigners, especially if you are vaguely Turkish-looking. I also had to learn German, which was an uphill battle considering how German people treated me.

Gained: Great health insurance and access to cheap and convenient travel throughout the rest of Europe.

I moved out of Germany after 2 years of trying, and failing to assimilate. Now I live in South America.

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by jimbob45 »

wbsss4412 wrote: post #334
jimbob45 wrote: post #248

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I was going to write exactly this. Florida is the proverbial city on a hill for its progressive crime transparency policies. I'm tired of the ignorant fools giving it a bad name because they're going to drag down a very healthy policy with them. I'm convinced that other states and countries try to smear Florida because they're terrified what would happen if they themselves had the bravery to commit to Florida's level…

How do you consider it “progressive” that Florida makes it easy to publicly shame people in the press for their transgressions? Most of the time it’s just punching downwards.

I think my link above would be very helpful for you. It's not just about crime transparency, which is something that virtually every state signaled support for in 2020. It's every governmental activity including university meetings.

You know it's working because people get caught trying to circumvent it[0]. The Attorney General hates it[1]. Without it, we wouldn't know about former governor candidate Andrew Gillum being a methhead[2]. I can't confirm this but I'm fairly sure we only know about the expired COVID tests because of this law[3].

I simply encourage you to educate yourself on Florida and to understand that their openness is something to be lauded, not feared or mocked.

[0]https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/01/07/2-...

[1]https://flaglerlive.com/95717/sunshine-law-snyder/

[2]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andrew-gillum-found-at-scene-of...

[3]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/desantis-conf...

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by ascari »

starik36 wrote: post #135
ascari wrote: post #77

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I moved to UK from Europe and I wouldn’t really say NHS is convenient. It is universal healthcare and you are not facing a bankruptcy most of the time in case of a health condition. Preventative and diagnosis treatments are so slow. In case I need to see a GP, i must try reaching them at 8ish in the morning otherwise they will simply ignore you and tell, call tomorrow.

Are you able to make an appointment for a specific date or you actually have to call everyday to see if there are open slots?

I believe they release slots every morning. So it’s not possible to book for the next day. They always tell me call the next morning when I call around 9:30

Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

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Post by wbsss4412 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #358
wbsss4412 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you consider it “progressive” that Florida makes it easy to publicly shame people in the press for their transgressions? Most of the time it’s just punching downwards.

I think my link above would be very helpful for you. It's not just about crime transparency, which is something that virtually every state signaled support for in 2020. It's every governmental activity including university meetings. You know it's working because people get caught trying to circumvent it[0]. The Attorney General hates it[1]. Without it, we wouldn't know about former governor candidate Andrew Gillum be…

Of those, the only thing I see as being actually significantly beneficial to the public would be the story about expired Covid tests.

Knowing that a former gubernatorial candidate is/was a meth head isn’t a crowning achievement.

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