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I don’t know how much of the US you experienced, but LA is hardly representative of the country.
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Does Rust or Go count?
Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
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Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t know how much of the US you experienced, but LA is hardly representative of the country.
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> Americans are an unimpressive, vain and ugly people - who admittedly know how to sell things
Replace Americans with any other nationality and see how offensive this sounds.
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Oh, that's another thing: while salaries in Europe might be sub-par by American standards, subcontractor values are exceptionally comparable to American standards . That is to say, if you can find subcontractor-style/freelance work in Europe, you can expect to make revenues on par with American standards. Its just the employment laws that make half your paycheck disappear every month. But, don't worry, when you need…
You usually lose your health insurance in Austria after about 30 weeks of unemployment... so not sure what you are talking about. https://www.ams.at/arbeitsuchende/arbeitslos-was-tun/geld-vo...
Only if you haven't worked anywhere for 6 months, whereas I have worked almost every month I've lived in Europe, and only had my accident between jobs. For a lot of Americans, this would have been a dire, life-changing event. Europeans don't understand just how dangerous that can be in the USA.
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Just curious: how long since you moved out of USA? How long it took to learn German well enough (in your personal opinion) to integrate well?
20 years - I left just after 9/11, during which period I witnessed the USA collectively shitting itself, and during which I decided to play no part in the USA's continued economic survival. Far better to have moved to Germany and get things happening in a country not inclined to blood-lust because it was finally attacked the way it had been attacking countries, with impunity, for decades prior. The German culture's p…
I’ve found Germans to be very humble and accommodating to people that try to speak the language. I would know; I’m still terrible at it. But might be different depending on city etc.
Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
#56I've done it, and it was one of the best decisions of my life. WHERE: I'm Australian, moved to LA when I was 18 and lived there for 15 years. Then, I moved from Los Angeles to Germany (Duesseldorf), and then to Vienna, Austria. WHAT SACRIFICE: No more In 'n Out Burger, no more decent Mexican/TexMex food, no more LA food trucks. These are literally the only things I miss about the USA. Literally every other aspect of…
I don’t know how much of the US you experienced, but LA is hardly representative of the country.
LA is representative of everything that sucks about the USA: excessively expensive housing, high crime, car culture and implicit racism. It’s quite clear that the Australian who is attempting to describe the USA as a whole actually has a very narrow view of the country.
Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
#57I've done it, and it was one of the best decisions of my life. WHERE: I'm Australian, moved to LA when I was 18 and lived there for 15 years. Then, I moved from Los Angeles to Germany (Duesseldorf), and then to Vienna, Austria. WHAT SACRIFICE: No more In 'n Out Burger, no more decent Mexican/TexMex food, no more LA food trucks. These are literally the only things I miss about the USA. Literally every other aspect of…
I grew up in an American colony; the Canal Zone. We had our own schools and were taught U.S. curriculum and about the U.S. I was a rabid nationalist. I had never lived in the U.S. until I went to college but had visited it. Ever since coming to the U.S. I slowly became more and more liberal and less and less nationalistic. The myths I was taught about the U.S. did not withstand my experience of the country. Everythin…
> It’s very hard to live where you can walk to a grocery store.
Very hard seems like an exaggeration. More expensive, maybe, but millions of low-income people also do it.
I didn't have a car for most of my twenties, and the majority of my social group didn't either. Living in a more spread out area of the US is a choice-- one that comes with benefits, but still a choice.
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Just curious: how long since you moved out of USA? How long it took to learn German well enough (in your personal opinion) to integrate well?
20 years - I left just after 9/11, during which period I witnessed the USA collectively shitting itself, and during which I decided to play no part in the USA's continued economic survival. Far better to have moved to Germany and get things happening in a country not inclined to blood-lust because it was finally attacked the way it had been attacking countries, with impunity, for decades prior. The German culture's p…
> The German culture's proclivity for peace-making ...
Oh boy, this gave me a good chuckle. Thanks for that.
Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just curious: how long since you moved out of USA? How long it took to learn German well enough (in your personal opinion) to integrate well?
20 years - I left just after 9/11, during which period I witnessed the USA collectively shitting itself, and during which I decided to play no part in the USA's continued economic survival. Far better to have moved to Germany and get things happening in a country not inclined to blood-lust because it was finally attacked the way it had been attacking countries, with impunity, for decades prior. The German culture's p…
> The German culture's proclivity for peace-making
I had hitherto been unaware of this proclivity, thanks for educating us all.
Re: Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?
#60Moved from Seattle to Munich, Germany a few years ago.
Biggest sacrifices: Pay is kind of a huge one. There are very few companies (even global ones) that pay the same in Europe as they do in the US. If I moved back to the US with my current company, I would get a ~70k/year increase in salary. Social situation is the other big one. It's hard to ever feel like you totally fit in as an expat.
Biggest gains: Quality of life is generally higher - food is better (quality, not taste, Munich's food scene kind of sucks), public transportation is better, healthcare is largely better (although again, a little weird in Germany). 6 weeks of vacation as a baseline in most places and unlimited sick leave. Generally more of an emphasis on work/life balance and taking time for yourself.