I wonder if the timing could be related to recent market performance.
It’s due to the peak passing without intolerable pressure on the health system. Expect restrictions to come back if this changes; we’ve wound them up and down a few times now.
Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
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#392Sure the death “rate” is lower per infection but in absolute numbers, we’re creeping towards the peak again. Kinda of sad people are thinking 3-4000 people dying per day is acceptable and an excuse that everything is ok. That’s one 9/11 event per day in terms of death.
This is Ireland, not the US. Omicron didn’t really produce a spike in deaths here; they’ve been at about 7-10 a day since October (25%-33% US rates). Notably, our vaccination and booster rate is much higher than the US, and virtually all over 65s have at least two doses.
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#393Earlier quoted context omitted.
Vaccination can be a hardship if it causes adverse events. The long-term negative health effects of COVID infection in children are isolated to the high risk comorbidity group, including COVID induced myocarditis. Healthy kids who contract COVID do not develop myocarditis later. Meanwhile, healthy kids who get the vaccines are at a small risk of developing myocarditis with the risk being far higher than developing it…
> small risk of developing myocarditis "small" is doing a lot of work here. As a society, we are generally comfortable with mandates that contain a small amount of risk. This had better be a large value of "small." > Among more than 2.5 million vaccinated HCO members who were 16 years of age or older, 54 cases met the criteria for myocarditis. The estimated incidence per 100,000 persons who had received at least one…
If you're going to quote the trolley problem at me, you need to explain to me the benefit of the vaccine for this age group. Risk of the virus for this age group is tiny. The primary rationale for vaccinating children originally was to prevent them from spreading the virus. With the new variants, this rationale has disappeared. It is now a private health decision, not a public health one.
I really dislike these public health studies where they wave their hands at myocarditis and treat it like it's not a big deal. There's no cardiologist that would tell you that. It's very serious and carries with it a dramatically elevated risk of lifelong cardiac problems down the road.
I will not allow the paranoia of a bunch of self-righteous cowards to put my kids at risk. Get the shot, move on with your life and leave the rest of us alone. We aren't responsible for soothing your paranoia anymore. The virus is now endemic courtesy of a lab in China funded by self-righteous arrogant scientists in the US. That's a controversial statement but it's the truth. Unfortunately, most of the people complaining about my kids not being vaccinated would rather be angry at me than angry at the people who unleashed this virus on the world.
https://ravarora.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-vaccine-indu...
https://peterattiamd.com/why-im-for-covid-vaccines-but-again...
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-vaccines-are...
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
They clearly do, it is like the very first sentence: https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471&forma... > The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 5 years of age and older. https://www.modernatx.com/covid19va…
COVID-19 isn’t the same as a positive SARS-CoV—2 test. This is what they measured, from the caption of table 10 in the pfizer fact sheet you linked: > Note: Confirmed cases were determined by Reverse Transcription-Polymerase Chain Reaction (RT-PCR) and at least 1 symptom consistent with COVID-19 (symptoms included: fever; new or increased cough; new or increased shortness of breath; chills; new or increased muscle pa…
That being said, the vaccines are not effectively preventing COVID-19 in vaxxed individuals with Omicron.
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The report you just linked doesn't show the raw numbers of people in the hospital, it shows the proportionate rates, which is exactly what I just addressed. Most people in the hospitals for Covid are vaccinated. And I'm sorry, I thought this was a thread about Ireland?
> Most people in the hospitals for Covid are vaccinated. Again, the fact that the numbers don't reconcile still stands, and without clarifications, that table and any references are meaningless. From page 7: - Rates Admitted to Hospital per 100,000: All adults, Fully vaccinated: 39.0 - Northern Ireland population: 1.9 millions Expected admitted in the whole N.I: (39 * 1900 / 100) = 741 - Total admissions: All adults,…
You're grasping at all sorts of straws here. Never said being vaccinated is less effective than not being vaccinated, an absolutely insane takeaway from what I've said. Now the official government data from the UK is bullshit, and the CDC is a better source to explain what's happening in Ireland? Are you kidding me?
The issue is that if you're gonna try to blame unvaccinated people for your problems, they should actually be the source of your problems - which they're not.
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Just two year of propaganda to be so hateful online. Do you know what hapened in history when segregation was main gonverment propaganda? Just stop it.
It is very different to discriminate someone for who they are than to discriminate someone for what they do.
So persecution because of free choice is perfectly fine?
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If your choice hurts other people, off course.
Define "hurts other people". I'm sure that have different opinion hurts a lot of people.
I meant it literally, including making other people sick or making other people to not have access to a hospital.