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Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by iamdbtoo »

cercatrova wrote: post #104
echelon wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly what came to my mind as well. https://medium.com/project-tinker/mailchimp-just-screwed-ove... https://slashdot.org/story/21/11/11/1634237/intuit-slashes-p... https://www.businessinsider.com/insider-weekly-mailchimp-ube... Similar situation with Epic and other firms taking on lots of investment, but freezing employees out of any gains.

That employees are "screwed over" is always a weird argument to me. Presumably these employees are free to choose the company they work for, and so they could've chosen companies that provide equity over those who don't. I was under the impression that Mailchimp paid well through salary and bonuses. To be compensated for many years and then cry foul when the founders exit and the employee having gotten nothing (becau…

What about the part where the founders actively steered employees away from equity? What about the part where they lied?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by cercatrova »

iamdbtoo wrote: post #121
cercatrova wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That employees are "screwed over" is always a weird argument to me. Presumably these employees are free to choose the company they work for, and so they could've chosen companies that provide equity over those who don't. I was under the impression that Mailchimp paid well through salary and bonuses. To be compensated for many years and then cry foul when the founders exit and the employee having gotten nothing (becau…

What about the part where the founders actively steered employees away from equity? What about the part where they lied?

See my reply to the sibling comment [0]. It is not the responsibility of the founders to tell you the truth, they do as they will. It's is always our responsibility to discern the truth from the lies, through what's actually written down.

Anyone, the world even, can lie to us, that doesn't mean we must believe them implicitly.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30068708

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by jakelazaroff »

natch wrote: post #116
crumbits wrote: post #108

I just can’t support Panic after they burned me and so many other Mac users with Unison.

Same with Coda. I used it maybe four times, forget the price I paid but let’s say $40; probably came out to $10 per use. It was nice. I was happy with the purchase, or thought I was until they pulled the rug out. I thought it would have long term value. Planned to use it much more in the coming years when I get into some web projects. And now it’s orphaned. Why did they ask for my money if they were going to do that?

Coda 2 was released in 2012. Nova came out in 2020. Is eight years of free updates not “long term value”?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by austhrow743 »

natch wrote: post #116
crumbits wrote: post #108

I just can’t support Panic after they burned me and so many other Mac users with Unison.

Same with Coda. I used it maybe four times, forget the price I paid but let’s say $40; probably came out to $10 per use. It was nice. I was happy with the purchase, or thought I was until they pulled the rug out. I thought it would have long term value. Planned to use it much more in the coming years when I get into some web projects. And now it’s orphaned. Why did they ask for my money if they were going to do that?

Presumably they thought you wanted to use it as it was and when you bought it.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by sfvisser »

cercatrova wrote: post #98

I tried Nova when it first launched and again recently, and I switched back to VSCode due to the numerous plugins and prodigious output of its creators every month. In my opinion, Nova (through its lack) shows the true power of network effects, even in code editors, because even though VSCode is an inferior product in many respects, like speed and resource usage, it still wins due to its sheer popularity and extensib…

VSCode’s speed and resource usage are not best class, but – on my relatively modern machine – are definitively good enough.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by Narishma »

p0larboy wrote: post #96

Nothing to do with the IDE but I just want to point out that the homepage design is sick. The 3D space in the background did not affect the scroll performance and it adds a really good vibe without affecting the UX. Love it!

It may look sick but it's eating battery like there is no tomorrow. It's pegging 2 of my CPU cores at 100% constantly.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by cbeley »

lelandfe wrote: post #79
spicybright wrote: post #55

Meh. Sublime had every one of these features 5+ years ago. Best of luck to them though.

Sublime to this day does not have native LSP support.

https://github.com/sublimelsp/LSP with https://github.com/sublimelsp/LSP-typescript works pretty well for me. They are also both being actively maintained. It'd be nice if it was built-in, but it works well enough that I still have not found a compelling reason to switch to VSCode.

I really love sublime and it doesn't seem to be dead just yet. Sublime Text 4 was also a pretty great release.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by justinator »

lostmsu wrote: post #17
justinator wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Split panes ( infinite amounts!) of the same doc? OK - here's my money.

VS Code has that as pretty much the only command button in the tab area.

It something I miss in TextMate - it was a thing even in BBEdit in the 90's that I found very useful.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by sterlind »

biztos wrote: post #102
jamil7 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And right out of the box now, no support for Go files, not even syntax coloring, and it thinks go.mod is a media file and won't display its text. I just had a similar experience, no Go or Swift (ok understandable maybe) support out of the box. But I paid for it it anyway since I like what they’re going for and have admired the company for a long time.

I wouldn't mind not having support for any given $POPULAR_LANGUAGE out of the box -- maybe there are license issues with that -- as long as there is a good extension and it was super easy to find. Easy to find means if I open a .go file or relevant directory, the app should ask me if I want to install support for Go files. And it should have One Approved Extension, the others should be available on request (as all ar…

I think they're just heavily and narrowly targeting webdevs. Python for Django, Ruby for Rails, PHP, then a whole bunch of CSS/React-y stuff I'm not too familiar with.

I'm sure people use Go for back ends, but it's more for systems right?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by ThouYS »

nsonha wrote: post #119
cercatrova wrote: post #98

I tried Nova when it first launched and again recently, and I switched back to VSCode due to the numerous plugins and prodigious output of its creators every month. In my opinion, Nova (through its lack) shows the true power of network effects, even in code editors, because even though VSCode is an inferior product in many respects, like speed and resource usage, it still wins due to its sheer popularity and extensib…

To be fair this "worse is better" thing permiates all aspects of tech: c++, java, python, wasteful text based protocols...

in the case of python: "better is better" ;)
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