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Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by shagie »

Cyberdog wrote: post #57
brunoqc wrote: post #48

It's a bit pricey.

Like other tradesmen I'm glad to pay for tools which make me more productive. Nova is the best code editor on the Mac in my humble (but correct) opinion and it has paid for itself many, many times over.

At $100, its coming in close to IntelliJ all product pack (I've had it since the Mayan end of the world).

Its also quite a bit more than BBEdit (which I've had since

If it was closer to BBEdit (which I've had since System 6 days), I'd consider switching the text editor - it looks nice.

For me, the price per year compared to products that I already have that have more functionality would be for something that I don't use as much.

It looks nice. If it was in the $25-$50/year, I'd be considering it for the situations where I open up VSCode instead of BBEdit for some functionality there... but the price for where it is in my toolchain doesn't replace something worth that much per year.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by chrysoprace »

I don't mind native apps, but if the trade-off is that it's platform exclusive then that's unacceptable in 2022. Platform exclusivity is such a massive step backwards.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by artdigital »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #28
bovermyer wrote: post #8

I really wanted to like Nova. I paid for it (and used it) for a year. In the end, though... I switched back to VS Code. Native apps like this are much faster than such things, but I had too many use cases for the plugins. Kind of the same experience as Sublime Text. It's _really fast_, but I just rely too much on plugins when the experience requires something more than vim.

I had a similar experience, but -- possibly counter-intuitively! -- ended up going mostly all-in back on BBEdit 14 when it was released with LSP support which has proven to be a lot less, well, flaky than Nova. I like VS Code a lot and may yet return to it as my main coding editor if I go back to a big project, but BBEdit has always been my old warhorse when it comes to my technical writing because it's just such a S…

fwiw, I just checked it out again and there is a basic VIM emulation layer now

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by lelandfe »

artdigital wrote: post #69
cercatrova wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI they actually launched in 2020 [0], but there were a paucity of features back then compared to VSCode (like Vim mode). They've been updating it over the years so it's cool to see where they are now. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24495330

Looks like it finally got a (although basic) vim emulation layer as well! Neat! https://library.panic.com/nova/vim/

I adore how blunt they are about what features they do and do not support on this page.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by artdigital »

Cyberdog wrote: post #58
svnpenn wrote: post #31

Highlighting support is bad: > For the curious, Nova has built-in support for CoffeeScript, CSS, Diff, ERB, Haml, HTML, INI, JavaScript, JSON, JSX, Less, Lua, Markdown, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, Sass, SCSS, Smarty, SQL, TSX, TypeScript, XML, and YAML. Youre supporting stuff like Diff and Haml, but not stuff like Go or Rust?

Here's a Rust extension: https://github.com/kilbd/nova-rust And here's the one of the three for Go which looks the most robust from cursory glance: https://github.com/GwynethLlewelyn/Go.novaextension Both of these were found by searching the built-in extensions library.

Just tried the Go extension and it's sadly not very usable. Functional yes, but not very usable

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by TheSocialAndrew »

I've been trying Nova for the last couple of months. Native it may be, but the performance with larger files is not on par with Sublime. Also it has some weird bugs (mostly in Git and in the handling of files) and it does crash occasionally.

It's very promising though and if anyone can stick by a product it's Panic. Also their apps are classic Mac -- eye candy but with thought out UX.

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by drusepth »

OT: How are "minimap" features in text editors actually implemented? Do they actually have a second rendering of your entire document running, just significantly scaled down? Are they building geometric shapes based on the shape of your text? What effect do they have on performance as document lengths grow larger and larger?

Re: Nova by Panic

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Post by micromacrofoot »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #68
reaperducer wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are the same folks that are making that wind up console? I don't understand it. They're all over the place. A video game, a video game console, an SSH client, and a text editor. What's the strategy with all of this? Also, they're hiring, but they don't do equity, and they want you to be physically located at their office? What? Perhaps they're filtering out the tech bros for whom equity and remote are deal-brea…

Well this is a new definition of “tech bro” to me. In my experience the people who either identified themselves or fit the stereotype preferred office life, and all of the social life it affords/requires. I’ve been remote most of my career and still prefer it despite difficulties posed by the pandemic. It’s quiet, I can focus on work goals without also accommodating a high school-like social atmosphere, and it’s… qui…

I have autism and ADHD and prefer working alone most of the time, but I’m also bad at making friends and enjoy occasional casual collaborative or parallel in-person work. I’d like going to an office once a week rather than 0 times.

There are many personal preferences that aren’t clearly defined by one option or the other… I wonder what kind of flexibility develops in-between the two?

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