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Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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It is mostly unvaccinated people choosing to not get vaccinated, which people have lost patience for, and I cannot blame them.

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Sure but if you need to get hospitalized due to Covid it's absurd that the rest of us need to bear that financial burden via increased insurance prices or increased taxes

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Child death rate is basically 0

Same goes for a child walking or using public transport to school, but almost everyone drives them. Endangering a child in a preventable way is now a socially punishable behavior

Parents may be choosing to value the benefits of the child playing with other children more than the tail risk of a viral infection.

I am not saying one is right or wrong, but I think it is valid to look at all the other viral infections kids are exposed to and cannot be vaccinated against, and realize they just have to roll the dice. In the past 4 years, my kids have had RSV, a noro or rotavirus, probably Covid at least once, and a numerous other viruses.

RSV/noro were the worst, but if they are going to play with other kids, it is all but guaranteed they will have something. I am actually most afraid of noro/rota viruses, far more than Covid. That thing tore through the entire daycare and shutdown multiple classes within 2 days, and the cleanup from all the vomit was crazy.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Child death rate is basically 0

Same goes for a child walking or using public transport to school, but almost everyone drives them. Endangering a child in a preventable way is now a socially punishable behavior

Where do almost all parents drive kids to school? In the US?

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Many (I suspect most but I only follow a few) epidemiologists are saying there's no stopping Omicron. It's more contagious than measles - if you're in a room with somebody who has it, you're exposed barring a properly fitted N95 mask. All of us will be exposed by mid February. It's also many times less pathogenic than Delta, and it's a gift that nothing at present can outcompete it. I believe it's the version that wi…

> Many (I suspect most)epidemiologists are saying there's no stopping Omicron. Which doesn’t mean we all have to get it at the same time. I’m so tired of these false dichotomies. There’s a lot of middle ground between full lockdown and completely giving up so everyone gets it at the same time. We’re already running out of ICU beds and emergency treatments like monoclonal antibodies where I’m at. Yet the prevailing lo…

I don't mean to present a false dichotomy, thank you for alerting me that I may have. Slowing it down is obviously helpful and anything we can do to accomplish that is important. In Canada I'm still doing everything I can because it's not clear that we've peaked - the government is saying we have but they've also cut way down on testing so I'm not sure. In South Africa and increasingly in the UK it looks like a different story.

Once hospitalizations are in decline most of the population will have been exposed.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

Unless you’re someone with a child under 5 who hasn’t been able to get vaccinated yet. My wife and I are fully vaccinated + booster but we are still choosing to be extra careful because our 4 year old can’t get vaccinated yet. So it’s a little frustrating to hear people talk like this when not everyone can get vaccinated yet.

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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

> At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. Or you’re too young for the vaccine. Hospitalizations among 0-1 year olds are significantly up with Omicron. Even 1-14 year olds represent a sizable portion of hospitalizations in many states, presumably biased toward those in that age group too young for the vaccine. Being a parent of young children is not great right now as Omicron…

Even though hospitalizations are up, death rate is basically 0

Sure, it sucks, but there are a lot of diseases out there that can put your child in the hospital that we’re not imposing restrictions for.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #45

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It is mostly unvaccinated people choosing to not get vaccinated, which people have lost patience for, and I cannot blame them.

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Have you taken other/alternate measures to prevent yourself from becoming a risk factor to yourself and others?

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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post #85

Many (I suspect most but I only follow a few) epidemiologists are saying there's no stopping Omicron. It's more contagious than measles - if you're in a room with somebody who has it, you're exposed barring a properly fitted N95 mask. All of us will be exposed by mid February. It's also many times less pathogenic than Delta, and it's a gift that nothing at present can outcompete it. I believe it's the version that wi…

> The only thing I'm dreading is the smugness of the antimask/antivax crowd who will ignore the herculean effort that avoided complete collapse of the health system and just claim they were right all along.

I am pretty happy that the vax-mandaters are being taught a lesson by the virus. They would have pulled through otherwise.

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.

Over 90% of the people in the hospitals are unvaccinated.

A statistic like this is meaningless unless qualified and supported with a link to a reliable source. All hospitals in the US, UK, European countries, South America, world?

Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'

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At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.

It's not causing as many hospitalizations per infection. But it's causing far more overall hospitalizations because the increase in infections vastly outweighs the decrease in seriousness.

The problem is and always has been "what if the health care system is overwhelmed".

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