It's still not understood what pressures led to Omicron favouring lower lethality so I'll be curious if that's ever explained over the normal "that's what viruses do _shrug_"...
Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
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Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#22As a policy to stop groups getting COVID, it seems it encouraged the thing it was trying to prevent.
Anyway, kudos to them for going back to something like normalcy, I must go back there on vacation!
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#23They are expecting a spike in infections as a result, and the rules around self-isolation on positive tests and wearing masks in most contexts remain. But Ireland has had one of the longest lockdowns in Europe, and one of the best vaccination rates. Both have paid off, but not without cost.
It is not clear to me that low incremental death rates are due to lockdowns (or, for that matter vaccination rates). Balkans had low rates with no lockdowns (and vaccination rates of under 35% throughout last summer). I am not claiming that your statement is wrong, just that the causal relationship is not at all clear to me. It is probably much easier to show for vax rates, but lockdowns -- I have not seen a convinci…
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#24Great! Other countries need to follow suit. We have to learn to live with this disease, like the gazillion others.
I wish that people who say things like "learn to live with it" actually meant it. We do indeed need to learn from the past two years, and that will result in something quite different from pretending that we're still in 2019.
Another one, politicians need to stop using science for propaganda. The mistrust in scientists has cost us dearly.
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
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#26At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.
US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened?
I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#27Great! Other countries need to follow suit. We have to learn to live with this disease, like the gazillion others.
I wish that people who say things like "learn to live with it" actually meant it. We do indeed need to learn from the past two years, and that will result in something quite different from pretending that we're still in 2019.
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm quite sure it will be much more like 2019 than you think. People will learn to live with the deaths if it continues as it was in 2020/21. Prolong the lock downs more and most of the population will go crazy.
Lol find me one place in the United States where there are “lockdowns”.
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#29At this point, you’re either vaccinated, have been sick or are dead, so all good. With Omicron beating out Delta and not causing as many hospitalizations - sure, why not.
Am I fucking crazy for not knowing what's going on any more? US hospitalizations are at an all time high, 2000 people are still dying every day, and it feels like everybody is just okay with that now. What happened? I get that everybody is tired of it, I am too, but it feels like we wasted two years of everybody's life just the take the bullet anyway.
Re: Ireland drops most Covid restrictions in wake of 'Omicron storm'
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm quite sure it will be much more like 2019 than you think. People will learn to live with the deaths if it continues as it was in 2020/21. Prolong the lock downs more and most of the population will go crazy.
Lol find me one place in the United States where there are “lockdowns”.