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New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by gtsop »

throwawaynay wrote: post #30
gtsop wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like the US has done on another dosens cases throughout their history. Please don't spam, my statement still stands. Both sides have done wrong, i just get annoyed when i see the obvious "US good - China/Russia bad" narrative being subliminally pushed on irrelevant matters.

No the US is not good, not at all. It's pretty bad, but it's currently not a greater threat than China. The US is not currently invading Canada or Mexico, or harvesting organs from minorities. This is not irrelevant, China is the new Nazi Germany and the greatest threat to the world besides global warming.

Nice try troll

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by throwawaynay »

gtsop wrote: post #31
throwawaynay wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No the US is not good, not at all. It's pretty bad, but it's currently not a greater threat than China. The US is not currently invading Canada or Mexico, or harvesting organs from minorities. This is not irrelevant, China is the new Nazi Germany and the greatest threat to the world besides global warming.

Nice try troll

No I'm not a troll. You're just really ignorant. Did you spend the last 5 years living in a cave? How can you be totally oblivious to the fact that there is millions of people in concentration camps right now? Working as slaves for multinationals or getting their organs harvested by the Chinese government?

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by lr4444lr »

nraynaud wrote: post #26
Zenst wrote: post #24

This would be born out with a lower average cancer rate in populations that do not drink alcohol. So one would expect cultures that do not of forbid drinking would have a lower rate of cancer. Alas it is hard to nail down that date due to various factors and types of cancer and equally, associated health care. So a high cancer death rate in one country compared to another, maybe due to health care as well, so really…

the study of mormon communities did actually show a lower cancer rate. I can't find the article anymore, but it's visible in breast cancer rate (I don't remember what the study was controlled for).

Lots of confounding variables between Mormons and non-Mormons though, yes?

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by lr4444lr »

throwawaynay wrote: post #29
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese people are just like any other people. That’s also true of most of the planet. Have you spent any time living in East Asia? Perhaps you ought to.

No they're not. Who the hell would to want to live in a genocidal totalitarian state where people bury their newborn daughters and where 10% of food is made from sewer oil?Also a country where people would rather kill you if they run you over?And where your organs can get harvested by the government? The only legitimate reason to want to live in China would be to actively work against the government criminal actions…

Beats North Korea.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by danschuller »

mmmeff wrote: post #2

Would anyone really self report excessive alcohol consumption accurately in China? Isn’t there an incentive to lie to bolster your social credit? Or are there guarantees in China against medical surveillance?

> Drinking alcohol - particularly the potent rice-based spirit bai jiu - plays an important ritualised role in business and government circles in China.

from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8350170.stm There have been quite a number of stories of death from this. Your assumptions about China are out of sync with reality.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by nraynaud »

lr4444lr wrote: post #33
nraynaud wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the study of mormon communities did actually show a lower cancer rate. I can't find the article anymore, but it's visible in breast cancer rate (I don't remember what the study was controlled for).

Lots of confounding variables between Mormons and non-Mormons though, yes?

I don't know, it's all about regression on other factors. I'm pretty sure you can find a drinking test population in California that is wealthy and non-smokers too. And you can eliminate coffee with a muslim population.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by jb1991 »

Zenst wrote: post #24

This would be born out with a lower average cancer rate in populations that do not drink alcohol. So one would expect cultures that do not of forbid drinking would have a lower rate of cancer. Alas it is hard to nail down that date due to various factors and types of cancer and equally, associated health care. So a high cancer death rate in one country compared to another, maybe due to health care as well, so really…

I’ve often heard it mentioned that the church of Latter Day Saints is a religious culture that abstain from alcohol and caffeine, and their life expectancy is many years longer than average, by a decade or so, even when they live amongst others in the same country and otherwise have similar environmental influences.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by jb1991 »

1penny42cents wrote: post #12

> it has been difficult to establish whether alcohol directly causes cancer, or if it is linked to possible confounding factors (such as smoking and diet) that could generate biased results. > It was also unclear whether alcohol is linked to other types of cancer, including lung and stomach cancers. If smoking was a confounding variable, shouldn't we see an increased risk of smoking-related cancers?

I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but we certainly do see an increase in lung cancer among people who smoke regularly.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by gtsop »

throwawaynay wrote: post #32
gtsop wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice try troll

No I'm not a troll. You're just really ignorant. Did you spend the last 5 years living in a cave? How can you be totally oblivious to the fact that there is millions of people in concentration camps right now? Working as slaves for multinationals or getting their organs harvested by the Chinese government?

> No I'm not a troll

Then it must be the drugs. Try to get it together mate.

Re: New genetic study confirms that alcohol is a direct cause of cancer

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Post by throwawaynay »

gtsop wrote: post #39
throwawaynay wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I'm not a troll. You're just really ignorant. Did you spend the last 5 years living in a cave? How can you be totally oblivious to the fact that there is millions of people in concentration camps right now? Working as slaves for multinationals or getting their organs harvested by the Chinese government?

> No I'm not a troll Then it must be the drugs. Try to get it together mate.

Have you heard of the word argumentation?

Are you denying the fact that a genocide is currently happening in China?

Or are you just a brainwashed Chinese national who wants to cry because not everyone worship the CCP?

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