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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Sounds more like they are anti turbine. Where does someone put a turbine when it's at the end of its life?

Where does someone put a coal fired power plant when it's at the end of its life?

Aren't coal power plants made from recyclable materials like metal and concrete rather than unrecyclable composite materials?

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Good luck to them! Always nice to get as much semiconducter talent in-country as possible, fabs are a pretty crucial supply line after all. I'd imagine most people would want a pretty significant pay raise to move to somewhere like Ohio, but they are nearby Ohio State University, so maybe they'll get local talent.

Any salary in semi space in US is better than $34k-$40k per year for a physics/engineering PhD level worker of moderate experience in Taiwan. The bigger question is why none of these $34k a year PhDs did move to USA before. I bet, even a floor sweeper at an Intel fab gets more.

US visa policy is slow, apparently pew found there are 700,000,000 people interested in immigrating to the US, open the gates!

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Aside from Cal, which other State(s) do you consider to be at least growing a culture of innovation? Just curious because might move to US from Canada in the future.

Innovation is a function of you and the people you work with, not where you live. You should be looking at the team you will be working on, not the reputation of a physical place or company. If you fail to do that, you will be disappointed when the reality inevitably doesn't match the hype. Nearly every state has loads of smart and innovative people, despite what HN's regional bias would lead you to believe. The exce…

Thanks, sounds reasonable. Although I'll probably look at the area too.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Low geopolitical risk is probably one of the best factors.

Fun fact, Ohio was supposedly high on the Soviet nuke target list, because of Wright Patterson AFB, which houses the Air Force Research Lab (and aliens). I have an old Soviet invasion map of central Ohio, marking all potential airfields etc.

We also have a particle accelerator in Southern Ohio, I’ve heard it would be on a lower priority tier of things to nuke/otherwise destroy. Not sure how accurate the statement was, but I think it was from somewhere credible enough…

Wright Patt definitely has some high level stuff stored, I have a few friends who work engineering there.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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the only thing an ev actually needs chips for is charge controllers which can be old fab tech, and motor controllers which aren't normal silicon or tiny feature size. Tesla is using silicon carbide, and gallium arsenide will probably be next. The Bollinger takes this route of minimalism. Ironically, an EV has less reliance on processing than a modern ICE vehicle.

Also the infotainment. And real questions because I'm genuinely curious: do driver assists (ABS, ASR, TCS) and their adjustments rely on processors? What about in-car adjustments to suspension height, ride firmness, throttle response (e.g. eco vs sport vs comfort modes)? Lane keep assist, blind spot checking, adaptive cruise control all seem like things that would require processing power as well.

The only infotainment a car needs is interfacing with CarPlay/Android Auto.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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I can assure you that CWRU is still in Cleveland, Ohio.

Ugh, how embarrassing. Of course it is. And it's still a great school. Unlike U of Indiana, I haven't been to CWRU. Thank you for the correction.

Do you know where Don Knuth did his undergrad? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth for the answer. Then, he wised up and came out here... ;-)

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Fun fact, Ohio was supposedly high on the Soviet nuke target list, because of Wright Patterson AFB, which houses the Air Force Research Lab (and aliens). I have an old Soviet invasion map of central Ohio, marking all potential airfields etc.

"old Soviet invasion map" Soviets had a concrete plan to invade Ohio? Wow. How were the troops supposed to cross the ocean?

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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The midwest has some of the greatest engineering schools in the nation. I have been beating this drum hoarse for a few years now - but it's true. Specifically, members of the Big 10 conference are probably the best engineering schools conference in the world. Within 300 miles from Columbus (where you have Ohio State - Big10), you have Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, UIUC, Indiana, Purdue from the Big 10 along w…

I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

Caltech, Stanford, Cal, and Harvey Mudd are on the same tier with Purdue, Michigan, Illinois, CM.

The other ones are good schools, but in a distinctly second tier to that group.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Far…

Silicon fabs do not make server boards. They just produce the silicon wafer i.e. "die" of a semiconductor device. Most die must be assembled into a package before they can be used. The die packaging aka "backend" is almost never done at the same place as the fab. Most backend is in Taiwan or Malaysia or China. Even after the die is packaged, it needs to be mounted on a complete PCB with all the other components. Intel typically does not do PCB assembly, they mostly just sell assembled CPUs (or other devices) to other companies that do the PCB assembly.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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With all of this recent chip investment, would anyone with more familiarity with the industry care to comment about how much this is driven by:

1) pre-existing long term plans

2) more recent supply chain bottlenecks

3) Some combination of 1 & 2

Bonus: How China may figure into the equation

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