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Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by kragen »

jasonlotito wrote: post #173
rxhernandez wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there's more great ones in California but I can count 14 off the top of my head; I think all of them are nearly within 300 miles of LA too. 1. Caltech 2. Stanford 3. Cal 4. UCLA 5. Harvey Mudd 6. USC 7. UCSD 8. UCD 9. UCSB 10. CPSLO 11. UCI 12. CPP 13. UCSC 14. UCR

I mean, if you are going to count campuses, Penn State has like 20+ alone.

It sounds like maybe you think UCLA and Berkeley are as closely related as the different campuses of Penn State, but that is far from the truth.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by lenocinor »

eatonphil wrote: post #126
rotten wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ohio State University is in Columbus and if not the largest university in the world it is in the top 3.

Largest university in the world? Top 3 in the US maybe but the largest universities in the world (I'm not talking about networks) are an order of magnitude bigger. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_universities

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_public... Top 3 US, as you said, but nowhere near top 3 in the world, as you also said. Also, enrollment sure isn’t everything. Speaking as someone who used to live near Orlando, UCF is #2 on that list and I had consistent bad luck hiring computer science grads from there. And 3 of the top 5 are in Florida (it’s been like that since 2015) and I don’t see tech employers scrambling to move to Florida en masse. The focus and quality of the institution definitely matters.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by fullstop »

rurp wrote: post #161
fullstop wrote: post #152

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Most people are trying to move in the opposite direction. With that being said, here's a few interesting things about Ohio: 1. Vehicle safety inspections are not required 2. It's very flat, but their flag is the only non-rectangular state flag 3. Due to an oversight (congress never voted -- oops!), Ohio was not officially admitted to the union until 1953. If you want stuff to do within a reasonable distance you might…

I'm not sure what #1 means. Can you expand on it? I don't recall ever putting a car through something like that.

Many states require an annual vehicle safety inspection, often accompanied by an emissions test.

In Pennsylvania, I have to have my car tested each year. They make sure that tire tread depth, remaining brake pads, exterior lamps, and windshield wipers are all functional / within tolerance. There's other stuff that you can be failed for, such as excessive rust, etc.

That's one other thing to know about Ohio. Your car will rust. It's a cancer that will slowly eat your car, even if you do an undercarriage wash.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by ensan »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #66
ensan wrote: post #58

When it comes to proximity research institutions, the choice of location is strange to me. Somewhere in the northern Indiana/Illinois/Michigan (i.e. "Greater Michiana") would have made a lot more sense. That way, you would be close to, UIUC, Northwestern, UChicago, UMichigan, Purdue, Notre Dame, UIndiana, Argonne National Lab, etc.

Do the people that need to work at the fabs come from those schools?

For such a high-tech industry, the choice of location is also about taking advantage of the talent and research ecosystem that is already established there.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by Spooky23 »

MathCodeLove wrote: post #130

I've actually been considering a move to Ohio this June. Any suggestions for whetr in Ohio I should look? My main consideration is low CoL as I work remotely but I'd like there to be stuff to do within a reasonable driving distance.

I spent a few days in Cincinnati on our baseball tour a few years ago and had a great time. Seemed to have a city/small town vibe, and is a days drive from Chicago or Atlanta.

Don’t know the area terribly well, but it seemed like a place that we wanted to “get to know” better.

My family also really liked Pittsburgh.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by rotten »

This same street has a Facebook data center, an AWS data center, and a Google data center (within a couple of miles). There is a biotech research campus, Bath & Bodyworks main research lab, and the main operations center for AEP (a midwest electric company). If you travel about 2-3 miles orthogonal to that street we have a big data center for Nationwide Insurance, a campus for Discover (credit cards), and a State Farm insurance facility.

It is literally across street from one of the Ohio East-2 availability zones. If they were making rack-mounted server boards, they could just walk them across the street and plug them into the cloud.

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by sanp »

qsmi wrote: post #90
ksec wrote: post #15

Intel said the same thing for Arizona as well. Initial $20B investment which could expand to $100B. So they are building it in two places. I wonder why they dont keep it all in Arizona? ( May be Tax Break, but I have no idea how Tax Break works in US ) And if you include their (expected) expansion in EUR, Intel is layering the foundation for Foundry Services. Compared to its half assed Custom Foundry in 2012/2013 wit…

Increasing supply chain resiliency by having multiple, geographically separated, sites this more of a thing now. https://hbr.org/2020/09/global-supply-chains-in-a-post-pande... "The obvious way to address heavy dependence on one medium-risk or high-risk source (a single factory, supplier, or region) is to add more sources in locations not vulnerable to the same risks."

also, resiliency against adverse action in the Senate. they now have 4 senators who are unlikely to vote on anything damaging to Intel

Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by [deleted] »

flybrand wrote: post #27
ksec wrote: post #15

Intel said the same thing for Arizona as well. Initial $20B investment which could expand to $100B. So they are building it in two places. I wonder why they dont keep it all in Arizona? ( May be Tax Break, but I have no idea how Tax Break works in US ) And if you include their (expected) expansion in EUR, Intel is layering the foundation for Foundry Services. Compared to its half assed Custom Foundry in 2012/2013 wit…

> why not all AZ? Game theory between US states playing to get the most gov’t assistance? Finite pool of talent? Our plants are in rural areas and everyone is struggling to hire, from auto to bakeries.

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Re: Intel's $20B Ohio factory could become world's largest chip plant

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Post by yucky »

MrDunham wrote: post #124
qsmi wrote: post #67

Does anyone know why Intel would want to build a "mega-site" in the city of Columbus Ohio? Why not choose Cleveland Ohio where one has port access with an existing route to Europe? Fabs are international affairs, no matter where they're rooted, because just to keep the place running one needs a constant stream of parts from everywhere. It seems like being in a sea/rail/truck hub would be a logistics advantage. [1] ht…

So, I live in Columbus Ohio and I’m friends with two of the top people in our economic development department the broker this deal. I can’t speak well to why not Cleveland but I can say that the actual city that they chose (New Albany, OH, 25 min to downtown and 15-20 to the airport) was built by Les Wexner, founder of L brands/Victoria’s Secret, is now home to data centers for Facebook, Google, and an AWS data cente…

>Les Wexner

Didn't Epstein have some sort of exclusive investor relationship with Wexner? I seem to recall that was where he got his start.

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