And in 10 years they'll find out they're wrong, but that's the way this stuff goes.
No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation
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#772Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to feel some dissonance about this, you might note that this is the exact language the CDC uses for things like secondhand smoke -- "There is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke" -- which everybody nods along to and accepts without much scrutiny. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/seco... Meanwhile, when it's something like, say, cosmic radiation exposure from c…
I think the reason one bothers us and another doesn't (in the case off smoking) relates to the level of non-contradiction evidence. It's been decades since the pseudo-research propaganda from the tobacco industry was taken seriously, and lots of legitimate research to go along with that. Alcohol on the other hand seems to produce a fair number of contradictory studies on a regular basis. There are pretty clear negati…
It seems the reason they've gone for the "no amount of alcohol is good for" precisely because of the existence and popular influence of contradictory claims. They're taking the position that it's the negative effects that have the plausible mechanisms and the associations of low-to-moderate use with sometimes better outcomes than abstinent cohorts that are most likely proxy variables for general health and [former] lifestyle.
(c.f. absolutely no pop-science reporting on supposed therapeutic benefits of cosmic radiation from frequent flying, so the average person hearing about it is likely to overestimate its negative effects rather than wonder if they should be booking a flight with every meal!)
Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation
#773That is strange. But I am sure a small amount of cigarettes is good for lungs.
Smoking cigarettes actually has a protective effect for contracting covid. You’re less likely to get it but if you do the outcome is worse.
That's interesting. I decided to look up to see if there were any theories on why that might be the case. It looks like results on this are inconclusive across the board and conflict of interest rears its ugly head yet again, but I found this:
https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-maga...
"One study suggests this could be because nicotine interferes with ACE2 receptors, which may prevent the virus from entering cells."
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We should then work on enabling people to fly with no climate impact. For example, using zero emissions energy to synthesize jet fuel. The goal should be to enable people, not to block them.
Sure, but not high on the list of priorities. How about enabling people to get healthcare, go to college, or to survive by addressing global warming.
"Stop everything above this line on Maslow's pyramid because some people fall below the line" is not a solution to any of the problems faces by people below the line. It's like demanding that an astrophysicist cure AIDS at once before ever using another telescope.
You don't help people climb a ladder by chopping off the top and declaring the ladder climbed.
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#775Although I live in a place where weed is legal, I don’t use it. I enjoy the occasional glass of a nice scotch, though, and I love a good stout or porter beer. This is where it gets a little strange for me: by every metric I can think of, I’d be better off replacing alcohol with weed. There seem to be fewer negative effects, it’s not a source of empty calories, and looks like a better recreational drug in every way. A…
Imagine being haunted by Nancy Reagan in 2022.
It's not just Nancy Reagan, man... Every former president and first lady since JFK, they're all out to get us. They got that Annunaki blood, long flouride fangs, and woobly mind control waves.
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#776For everyone complaining about evidence citation, this is just a press release. The actual brief which includes 41 citations is here: https://world-heart-federation.org/wp-content/uploads/WHF-Po...
I saw this from this link: https://world-heart-federation.org/news/no-amount-of-alcohol... In that article, it states: "Alcohol has a greater impact on people from low socio-economic backgrounds, who are more likely to experience its adverse effects compared to people from higher socio-economic backgrounds, even when consuming similar or lower amounts." Can someone provide some insight here? What does your wage have…
The two major negative effects of low social-economic status on health that I commonly see mentioned is increased stress and reduced amount of cooping mechanics that provide protection.
The human body is pretty able to withstand most injuries, viruses, bacteria and so on. The more stressed a person is the less the body is able to do that recovery. In addition, if and individual is low on the socio-economic scale they might not have available cooping mechanics like resting, taking a day of, or access to social support. A lack of cooping mechanics is also a source for stress, making the body prioritizing other things than recovery.
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My great grandfather sat in a chair and drank from his handle of whiskey every day until his death also at 96. I had heard stories of workers on his farm not realize he was drinking during the work day until the tractor plowed through a neighboring fence causing them to look up in concern to see him passed out on the seat. I unfortunately saw many in my family use his fortunate long life span, regardless of drink con…
What happened 90 days ago?
I gave up drinking.
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#778Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Nobody gains anything from an activity that fundamentally requires exposure to tobacco smoke. Except smokers, of course. Smoking isn't just addictive and deadly, like alcohol, it has its own appeal to users.
We’re not talking smoking though We’re talking second hand smoke Who exactly is looking to get some second hand smoke in their face while avoiding actually smoking?
Secondhand smoke is the cost of being in a bar outside of the US. Good luck making friends with European expats without some secondhand smoke.
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#779No post body was provided.
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#780Honestly. So what. Human beings have lived with alcohol during all of civilization. If it’s bad for me…so be it. Not rationalizing or endorsing just saying maybe a little recklessness is bad for the individual and good for the species.