No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

Post by ericd » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 7:32 PM UTC

AlwaysRock wrote: post #448

allturtles wrote: post #358

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Exactly. I find the claim "no level of alcohol consumption is safe" hyperbolic. You could claim with far more justification that "no amount of driving is safe" since you could be killed pulling out of your driveway but I think most people who drive on a daily basis would find this claim odd. "safety" is a relative, not an absolute condition, since in some sense being alive is unsafe.

This is a pretty odd comparison. Some amount of food/caloric intake is healthy or required. Too much is bad. Some amount of water intake is healthy or required. Too much is bad. No amount of arsenic intake is healthy or required. Any is bad. No amount of alcohol intake is healthy or required. Any is bad. Too much of many things is bad. Any amount of some things is bad. Safe may be an odd term for it but alcohols impa…

Post by chucksta » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 7:38 PM UTC

pnt12 wrote: post #467

chucksta wrote: post #442

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No one is forcing you to drive to work either. Many people in don't even have a license, yet make it to work each day. You even said it, "might be forced" meaning there are possibilities in which you aren't.

If you live outside the city, you basically are. In my home town, transportation is limited, eg a bus in the morning and one in the afternoon, both which can be late, and the stops are kilometers apart and the sidewalks are shitty. So when I'm there, I take my car everywhere, as does everyone else. But when I lived in a big city, the opposite happened: parking was expensive and the traffic sucked, so I always took th…

Post by deltaonefour » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 7:41 PM UTC

1970-01-01 wrote: post #584

deltaonefour wrote: post #560

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It's a liberty you exploited because clearly the intent of that word refers to a physical heart. Nobody dismisses it as a bad drug, alcohol is too ingrained in human culture to ever be dismissed. What's going on in this thread is scientific reconciliation and justification of ones own behavior. Lots of people live their lives off of scientific facts and conclusions to improve their own health and productivity. This n…

>Nobody dismisses it as a bad drug There's an instance right here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30010131

Post by quantumloophole » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 7:43 PM UTC

Post by redisman » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 7:51 PM UTC

allturtles wrote: post #389

kstrauser wrote: post #159

Although I live in a place where weed is legal, I don’t use it. I enjoy the occasional glass of a nice scotch, though, and I love a good stout or porter beer. This is where it gets a little strange for me: by every metric I can think of, I’d be better off replacing alcohol with weed. There seem to be fewer negative effects, it’s not a source of empty calories, and looks like a better recreational drug in every way. A…

Setting aside tradition/ritual, which I don't think should count for nothing, I can think of many objective metrics on which alcohol is superior: - Flavor - Fills the stomach (can be a disadvantage too, but is advantageous in some situations, e.g. while waiting for dinner to be served at a party) - Doesn't consume itself (i.e you can set down a drink and come back to it 30 minutes later) - Easy to consume a small amo…