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No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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reminds me of when the WHO said fertile aged women should not drink any alcohol and the wine aunts had a meltdown while also citing WHO as a source for anything covid related. hypocrisy at its finest.

I was unfamiliar with the term, so from the Urban Dictionary:

> wine aunt: An aunt with little to no interest in having children. Has much more interest in having a free and carefree life than the responsibilities of a family.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#402
They're focused on heart health so they don't address the fact that alcohol is also a carcinogen. This is sort of a "The sky is falling!" kind of article, but it comes down to, as always: Be aware of the risks in some intuitive way and decide what you want to do.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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I was thinking about this recently watching a conversation between Lex Fridman and Bryan Johnson and it struck me that there is a huge difference in optimizing lifestyle choices for human physical and mental performance, and optimizing lifestyle choices for human flourishing, or even say joy and wonder. I feel like there is this growing misunderstanding that the "optimal" human is one that can be the most productive…

I think saying its a misunderstanding is not giving people enough credit: we are constantly incentivized if not required to eschew joy and wonder in order to be productive and optimal. I don't think most people even have the chance to reflect on what they really want, they just need to make money to pay their rent.

Isn't it more of an American phenomenon though - because of the country's puritan roots?

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#404

Of course it isn’t. Drink water. Unfortunately some people believe they can’t enjoy themselves without alcohol. It’s curious: - babies have fun without drinking - kids have fun without drinking - some teens have fun without drinking Then at some point some people, as adults, feel like they have to drink to enjoy themselves? I wonder what happened. Edit: explicitly clarifying that I’m only talking about some people he…

- babies have fun without money

- kids have fun without money

- some teens have fun without money

Then at some point /some/ people, as adults, feel like they need money to enjoy themselves?

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#406

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Yes, but wine makes food taste infinitely better. I don't want to eat my rare filet with a glass of water, I want to eat it with and chilled bottle of natural Syrah from the North Rhone (preferably Dard et Ribo)

You chill red vine? Savage.

Not all -- but some. Syrah tastes better at cellar temp or below (IMO), Gamay usually tastes great chilled also.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

#408

Although I live in a place where weed is legal, I don’t use it. I enjoy the occasional glass of a nice scotch, though, and I love a good stout or porter beer. This is where it gets a little strange for me: by every metric I can think of, I’d be better off replacing alcohol with weed. There seem to be fewer negative effects, it’s not a source of empty calories, and looks like a better recreational drug in every way. A…

Setting aside tradition/ritual, which I don't think should count for nothing, I can think of many objective metrics on which alcohol is superior: - Flavor - Fills the stomach (can be a disadvantage too, but is advantageous in some situations, e.g. while waiting for dinner to be served at a party) - Doesn't consume itself (i.e you can set down a drink and come back to it 30 minutes later) - Easy to consume a small amo…

How can flavor possibly considered an objective metric?

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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I don't believe the poster above is saying that there should be no intervention, they're saying they shouldn't be criminally prosecuted. There should be a non-criminal route for helping drug addicts that doesn't result in prison.

I can agree with that, but what is it? It can't be forced rehab, that is just jail but different. And addicts by definition _won't_ seek help or a solution.

I don't agree with your definition, often people affected by addiction will desperately seek help. Unfortunately, many fall into relapse cycles and it's a long and hard process to recovery.

I think a good solution would be making quality non-forced resources available for free. For example, rehab, therapy, or jobs specifically created for those seeking to overcome their addiction. Ideally these programs could pay for themselves in net returns for society as a whole.

Re: No amount of alcohol is good for the heart, says World Heart Federation

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That is a weird comparison. No one is forcing you to drink alcohol, but you might be forced to drive to the office. One is avoidable, the other one is not. Or if you want to be even more precise: One is easily avoidable and the other might cost you your job.

How is that relevant? If you want change it to "no amount of driving to the bowling alley is safe".

I have seen many people use such comparisions, which do not match up, to justify unhealthy behavior for themselves, shutting themselves out from proper reasoning. That is how it is relevant. I am saying: Do not fool yourself using such arguments.

Also the comparison you now brought up is again not a good argument: It doesn't matter, whether there are unnecessary rides. The argument is, that there are mandatory ones for people, while there is no mandatory thing that forces you to drink alcohol. Or at least there should not be and in reality there are probably very few.

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