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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

theossuary wrote: post #226

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

I switched to Fastmail about 6 months ago after a decade on Google Apps. Yes, it’s paid, but I like it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by rnk »

bmarquez wrote: post #489
l33tman wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

> The loss of Youtube purchases; android play purchases, etc. is going to hurt It's basically blackmail: pay the new monthly fee which you didn't agree to when you signed up, or lose access to everything you've already paid for.

That's one reason why I have tried to only buy things on my personal Gmail account (@gmail.com), a few times I forgot and bought things on my private domain.

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Post by dendriti »

Kalium wrote: post #504
signal11 wrote: post #499

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> You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? It’s easy to paint customers as frightful moaners, but that’s a surefire way to lose customers, or at least alienate them. Google’s Reader debacle comes to mind. In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is…

> In particular, the short notice period (3 months + 2 months grace) for something people have been using for a decade is jarring. For me, this raises the obvious question. How long a notice period is long enough? Six months? Eight? A year? Five years? A decade? I think we can all agree that a decade would be an excessive and unreasonable expectation. > By the same token, people have been using free Gmail accounts fo…

Who said the notice period should be an entire decade? Or even five years?

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Post by jdofaz »

op00to wrote: post #493

Has anyone used iCloud mail recently? I’m already paying for Apple One, so this would be a $0 extra cost solution for me and my family.

I am, just for myself, it has worked fine with all my devices (including Thunderbird, K-9 and davx5). Calendar invitations work fine too

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by jtc331 »

angus-prune wrote: post #396
ryandvm wrote: post #197

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Same boat. I set up a Google domain for family many years ago. It's been somewhat convenient when it comes to sharing Google docs with each other and managing their email accounts for them, but that's about it. Everything else has been a continual pain in the ass. So many services are not supported by the custom Google domains or if we're lucky we get access years after they're introduced. It's always been remarkable…

I've dug into this through the documentation and in discussions with workspace support and its not as bad as we fear, at least in terms of purchases. If you cancel your workspace account, then the individual user accounts will still have access to non-workspace services [0], which importantly includes Google Play and all access to your purchases will be retained. Any other google services which aren't core apps will…

So is there any way to delete the account permanently such that the email can subsequently be used to sign up for a free personal account?

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Post by rssoconnor »

criddell wrote: post #364
jhawk28 wrote: post #359

Apple has a custom domain for email with their Cloud+. Guess I'll be switching to that.

This is interesting. If you or anybody else has experience moving from G Suite to iCloud+, I'd love to hear it.

After reviewing this thread, iCloud+ is top of my list for migration, and I don't even own an Apple-anything. (Migadu is my secondary choice if this iCloud+ thing falls through for some reason.)

From what I've been reading iCloud+ has some limitations, but it will fit my needs. An iCloud+ subscription costs $1 a month ($1.29 CAD), and the subscription can be shared with a "family" of up to 5 other iCloud accounts. iCloud+ supports up to 5 domains and three email addresses per domain per person. Domains can be shared between the family or not. I also trust Apple to have a competent security team.

I'll probably start the process this month.

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Post by fckthisguy »

theossuary wrote: post #522
l33tman wrote: post #485

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're complaining that a service you use all the time for a decade for free now might cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee per month? I'm all about Google being evil and all that, but spending valuable aggression on this seems a bit excessive.. The Google Takeout system gives you all of your email in a format you might be able to import into another system?

I host 7 emails right now, it'd cost $500/year for email moving forward. I'd be happy to convert accounts to personal Gmail accounts and do mail forwarding. I'd be happy to move to a family plan for $100/year. After being a user for a decade, you'd think Google would provide me a reasonable way to pay them for their services. But I can't swing $500/year for email.

Migrating to another email provider might be a pain when it comes to importing older mailbox content, but any of the alternative email providers would be way cheaper in the long run.

I use Protonmail for myself and around 5 others, with close to 10 mailboxes. I highly recommend it. Not sure what's available from them re. importing older mailboxes - I've never done it - but everything I've used jas been fantastic.

Protonmail's cheap too. Less than $50 annually for all that I use, including multi-user VPN.

I've heard good things about Fastmail too, of you're looking for an alternative.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by newman314 »

embeng4096 wrote: post #514
newman314 wrote: post #506

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Thanks. I realized that I was just reading about GMail backups a few days. Here are some repos that I happened to star on GH. * https://github.com/gauteh/lieer * https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync * https://github.com/joeyates/imap-backup

Thank you!

Found a review of iCloud's custom domain: https://medium.com/empty-coffee/three-months-with-apple-iclo...

TL; DR: Seems to work BUT may have issues with SPF/DKIM etc.

Looking for anyone else on HN to chime in with their experience using iCloud custom domains.

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