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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by tyingq »

422long wrote: post #151
tyingq wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 365 Family plan is $99/year, total (not per person), for up to 6 people, and you can use your own domain.

Funny.. I was apparently already paying for this and never knew it came with email. Too bad there is a 6 person hard limit as I need 7 accounts. Just tested a bit and it looks like only domains with DNS hosted by Godaddy work with this.

That's supposedly just a marketing thing. It doesn't have to be Godaddy.

The process is a little convoluted: https://www.reddit.com/r/Office365/comments/ft15pk/use_perso...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by pronik »

I probably have no problem paying for the service (gotta become a customer after being a product for 15 years). However, the service needs to start being on par with the regular Google account offering. Most of current users me included have setup family domains, but that's one of the areas which does not work with GAFYD/G-Suite/Workspace properly -- no Family Link, not Family Sharing in Android etc. The solution according to Google? Create a @gmail.com account for these cases. Speaking of which: same goes for children's accounts for Family Link -- you can only create a @gmail.com one for children, not an account in your domain which you control. This needs fixing.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by jvolkman »

jfengel wrote: post #100

Huh. I thought that was what I had, but I haven't heard this directly from them. It's the first I've heard of it. I used a microscopic subset of the features. Aside from them hosting my email, I don't think I'm any different from other users. It's just me; I'm not really a business. I notice some differences, mostly in limitations: less storage, features of my Pixel phone that sometimes don't work with that account.…

Looks like the information has been added sometime since 2021-12-07 (the most recent web.archive.org snapshot [1]), so maybe it's brand new and the emails are still forthcoming.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20211207200137/https://support.g...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by notyourwork »

johnebgd wrote: post #347
notyourwork wrote: post #333

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100% this... there is a product definition and the free bring your own domain model is not part of the free product definition any more. I'm having trouble understanding how technically literate people are grumpy about this. It was only a matter of time. Google is a business, not your friend and you should treat interaction with them in this lens. It's not 2002 when Google was the cool hip thing to use and they seeme…

People got a decade or more of free email hosting from Google and now need to pay for it. I know one small business that sells physical products and got 200 free accounts through this program. To this day they never delete old employees accounts as a result because it had zero cost to them to keep it around (not that they cared about security). I kind of chuckled reading this thinking about how Google even bothered t…

I recall at one point they were offering large (unlimited) storage quotas for these business accounts. Some groups were using rclone to interface for Google Drive to store warez and other large ticket items like pirated audio/video.

Even if the cap was 1TB I imagine there is a large amount of unused but occupied hot storage that is part of the equation. Not sure what others but in general there has to be some financial sheet indicating that this is costing money and offering no value so it is time to sunset it.

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Post by troutwine »

herodoturtle wrote: post #218
jason0597 wrote: post #111

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Seconding Fastmail. I pay about £45/yr for it and I am very satisfied with all the features it provides. What I most value however is the no-bullshit attitude from the Fastmail team. No random killing of features, no ads, no sudden UI changes. It might feel simple and old, but I like it simple and old.

Heya we're looking into migrating to Fastmail based on the recommendations here (including yours). Have you had any issues with your outgoing mails being flagged as spam? That's a (perhaps slightly paranoid) concern of ours, given Google's clout. And to be clear, I'm not talking about spammy / bulk emails. I mean your standard day-to-day personalised emails (customer support etc.).

I've been a Fastmail customer for years and have never had an issue with being flagged.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by fitblipper »

acdha wrote: post #254
Apreche wrote: post #139

I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> Yet, over the years, these accounts are just worse than free personal Google accounts. Because we are not a business, there is absolutely no benefit to these accounts whatsoever other than the custom domain. In fact, we can't even use the new version of Google Pay. It only works with free accounts! I now feel that this was a favor in disguise: Google spent so many years blocking Domains accounts from new services t…

I am kind of in the same position. I have 4 people using our custom domain for email only given the pain google put on these accounts. They've each setup their custom domain email account to forward to their individual free gmail accounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for a new email service I can point my domain MX records at? I only need email forwarding for these 4 users using my domain and a catchall email forwarder for the rest.

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Post by wayoutthere »

arbitrage wrote: post #279
uallo wrote: post #203

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https://protonmail.com/

Didn't proton's compliance canary die not too long ago?

Sure, but let’s also be realistic that any service large / secure enough to trust your email to will also be large enough to have drawn the attention of entities that can force them to do things against their will.

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Post by junar »

theossuary wrote: post #344
wffurr wrote: post #314

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I don't even think you have to do that. Your Play account is tied to the email address itself, which you can migrate to another provider with DNS, not the workspace / gsuite stuff.

According to what I've read I'll lose access to my google play purchases made under my legacy g suite account unless I decide to pay $6/month indefinitely. I'm not 100% sure, can't be until I do it; but I'm pretty certain, after reading through posts like https://support.google.com/googleplay/thread/3195114/transfe...

For what it's worth, I came across this passage:

> After 60 days in suspension, you will no longer have access to Google Workspace core services, such as Gmail, Calendar, and Meet. You may still retain access to additional Google services, such as YouTube and Google Photos.

https://support.google.com/a/answer/60217

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Post by criddell »

isodude wrote: post #341
theossuary wrote: post #226

I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

Shameless plug but https://epostflytt.se is a online mail transfer tool. Coming to think about it we should add calendar and contacts as well.

What is it? I can't read the page but am interested in something that could ease migration.
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