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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by techsupporter »

dekoruotas wrote: post #126
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

In my case for a personal email account I'll try DNS email forwarding: https://improvmx.com/

This looks a lot like a direct clone of https://forwardemail.net/, except that ImprovMX isn't open source. I wonder which came first?

I like simplelogin.io (also open source, so can be selfhosted) because the aliases can be used to send and receive, though you do have to set the domain up on their platform first.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by quesomaster9000 »

y4mi wrote: post #241
webmaven wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Obviously our use case isn't that common (it's been "legacy" for years) but still annoying to know that there's probably some script I could run to do this, but nobody has built the web UI for it. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for a 20% time project. Surely you aren't the only Googler in this situation?

Its not just googlers, the legacy accounts where available to everyone at the start. but the venn diagram overlap of people * willing to pay for such a tool, * not having switched to another provider since * and not willing to start paying for it now will be tiny

You're forgetting the circle of ageing techies that used to use AltaVista and now (in)directly control large budgets, have long memories and significant clout when it comes to guiding our replacements into making the right decisions and educating them about corporate (mis)trust.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by notyourwork »

jahlove wrote: post #161
Apreche wrote: post #139

I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> And now we're being forced to pay for something that everyone else gets for free. > Just looks like most of our accounts are going to get deleted or are going to have to pay $6/month for nothing. Am I wrong or are you paying that $6/mo for having the gmail UI in front of your custom domain? Doesn't really seem like nothing.

100% this... there is a product definition and the free bring your own domain model is not part of the free product definition any more. I'm having trouble understanding how technically literate people are grumpy about this. It was only a matter of time. Google is a business, not your friend and you should treat interaction with them in this lens. It's not 2002 when Google was the cool hip thing to use and they seemed to demonstrate the do no evil mantra. It's a publicly trading business, one of the largest in world by revenue and market position and financial tactical decisions will trump your feelings for what you think they owe you.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by ryan29 »

blip54321 wrote: post #288

I think a class action is in order here. Two claims: 1) False advertising. A lot of it.... 2) All those Google purchases....

It's the purchases for me. I'd be ok with every user in my domain getting converted into standalone Google accounts.

If they don't do something, I'm going to think about emailing every developer I've ever bought an app from and asking them if they can move my purchase to an alternate GMail account. I'll at least do it for anything expensive that I still use.

I'd love to see a class action lawsuit for Google Play purchases that get usurped.

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Post by techsupporter »

herodoturtle wrote: post #218
jason0597 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconding Fastmail. I pay about £45/yr for it and I am very satisfied with all the features it provides. What I most value however is the no-bullshit attitude from the Fastmail team. No random killing of features, no ads, no sudden UI changes. It might feel simple and old, but I like it simple and old.

Heya we're looking into migrating to Fastmail based on the recommendations here (including yours). Have you had any issues with your outgoing mails being flagged as spam? That's a (perhaps slightly paranoid) concern of ours, given Google's clout. And to be clear, I'm not talking about spammy / bulk emails. I mean your standard day-to-day personalised emails (customer support etc.).

I use Fastmail for personal e-mail for myself and two family members and where I work uses Microsoft's Office 365. I've never had issues with mails I send from Fastmail landing in spam, even to Google users, and I prefer their webmail UI over Outlook for the web or whatever it's called these days.

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Post by tipsysquid »

TheSocialAndrew wrote: post #251
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

We're switching over to Zoho for our latest startup. If you have more than one Google account the switching between personal and business is a nightmare. Some features are unavailable for one or the other, and it keeps switching between the two accounts seemingly randomly. It constantly asks for a password when you want to switch back. It's more headache than it is worth to be signed in to Google.

The only issue I have with Zoho is that their calendar solution falls well behind Google's. Between the scheduling, the Android widget, and notifications, it just really doesn't feel to have the same clarity as Google's.

Could just be my experience, but I'm considering moving back to Google for my personal email just for that.

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Post by easton »

seanwilson wrote: post #290
Octopuz wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either become a nonprofit or delete the account in G Suite and recreate it as a free regular Google account after the domain name has been removed from G Suite.

> recreate it as a free regular Google account after the domain name has been removed from G Suite How though? Create x@gmail.com and copy your old emails into it, change your domain settings to stop pointing to G Suite and forward x@example.com to x@gmail.com instead, cancel your example.com G Suite and your email should still be working.... But then what happens to apps and Android login that are connected to your…

> But then what happens to apps and Android login that are connected to your x@example.com Google SSO login? You can connect this up to x@gmail.com?

At this point you cannot. You will have to create a new Google Account, and none of your purchases will go across.

I'm guessing that whoever signed off on this didn't remember that Google sells movies and Android apps, or else they would've put a FAQ telling people this on the page.

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Post by eivindga »

jlv2 wrote: post #198

I've had this for 10+ years. I use it for a family domain. Everyone in the family has a user in the legacy G-suite, but it's really only set up as an email forwarder to their personal gmail account. No one logs in under it. I'm not going to pay $6/user/mo just to do that, and I don't think any of them (all adults at this point) would either. If I could get up an email forwarding without needing a paying user, I'd pro…

Sounds like you need something like:

https://improvmx.com/

or

https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/email-forwarding

(I have no idea if they work as advertised, as I have never used these services.)

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by ValentineC »

petemir wrote: post #110
herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

I used zoho for a long time, free tier.

I used Zoho for an event's domain, and didn't like how they removed POP/IMAP for their free version without any prior notice.

I'd trust them not to pull the rug any further even less than Google.

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