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Why does Google requiring a real name bug everyone, but not when Facebook requires it? I don't understand this outrage at all. - Eric Florenzano
I already said it. Because if Facebook bans me, I only lose Facebook. If G+ bans me, I lose multiple services, including 1 that is integral to my online identity.
g+ was dead the day they released it, I've said in a comment here before and I stand by it: google cannot launch a successful social product (where successful means it's a valid competitor to Facebook). They are too big, people put all their hopes and dreams on specific things happening which are unrealistic and they prematurely kill the product. Google could make a better product than Facebook but it would never tak…
"told 'ya" (and got downvoted) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2709330
Still doesn't work for Google Apps users - many of most prolific social contributors have migrated everything to Apps.
I'm one of those who has to access G+ in a different browser. As an early adopter, a big fan of G+, and having a dual monitor setup, I make the effort, but I can see how it's a turn-off for apps users (especially as they're the paying customers).
Google's made a big effort to migrate many of its services to support apps customers and I'm sure they'll do it for Plus too. I'm live streaming the Salesforce conference right now, where they're touting the "social network for companies" line. Google is probably thinking about how to make Plus useful in this context, when they come to support Apps.
I used the hell out of it. Every day. And then the Real Name debacle happened. And I thought, "There's no way Google would screw this up. They'll retract any day now." And here we are today. Early this week, I decided that was it. They obviously aren't going to see sense, and I can't risk losing my account. So I've stopped posting. I don't even check it, except when someone replies to something I've already posted. I…
I did the same thing. I can't even explain why but I lost all enthusiasm for it right at that point even though I was using my real name. The whole thing just seemed less interesting, less like a platform and more like a ploy, less new and more same-old-same-old. I think I also knew at that point that while conversation on G+ may be more civil it will be a lot less interesting. Certainly I was never going to discuss…
"When you get your account suspended on Google Plus, you lose Google Reader, your Google Profile (it is deleted from Google search) and any Picasa photos and photo albums." - http://www.zdnet.com/blog/violetblue/google-plus-too-much-un...
When were the last time you saw, for example, someones wedding pictures? Or discussion about real life social events? Or anything social? That's right, never.
All you can see there is tech blog aggregation, couple of celebrities, some geek pictures and that's it. You can find more social interaction here on HackerNews or Reddit.
And then, you just stop sharing yourself and stop checking Google+ and go back to Facebook for social and other places for geek stuff.
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I went a step further still and divested myself entirely of Google services. The real name debacle made me realize just how dependent on a single company I'd become and how little recourse I might have if that company cut me off. This was particularly troubling given how Kakfaesque Google's "support" is. So now my eggs are strewn around in several independent baskets and I intend to keep it that way.
Some postings on how people distribute their eggs and into what baskets would be interesting.
Blogging I'm now doing at WordPress and also a static Jekyll blog on S3.
Contacts I'm keeping in Address Book and backing up by hand.
Calendar I'm just keeping on my Phone and backing up by hand.
I'm still figuring out what to do with Picasa. May just go for static galleries on S3.
I use NewsFire on my Macbook instead of Reader.
I'm using DuckDuckGo for searching.
I never really used Google Docs anyway so that was easy.
I still use Chrome but I've turned off everything (I think!) that sends my data to Google.
All in all this is more work than a single, centralized account but I feel better about it.
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For a lot of my 'non-geek' friends, the years of photos, connections, groups, etc makes the cost of switching too high. For many, the idea of getting their photos out of Facebook is simply too daunting to consider. They're happy to maintain a LinkedIn though, as that's seen as a 'different thing': for business.
Why do you need to get photos out of Facebook? Can't you just put a link on your Google+ profile?
I used the hell out of it. Every day. And then the Real Name debacle happened. And I thought, "There's no way Google would screw this up. They'll retract any day now." And here we are today. Early this week, I decided that was it. They obviously aren't going to see sense, and I can't risk losing my account. So I've stopped posting. I don't even check it, except when someone replies to something I've already posted. I…
Why does Google requiring a real name bug everyone, but not when Facebook requires it? I don't understand this outrage at all. - Eric Florenzano
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I went a step further still and divested myself entirely of Google services. The real name debacle made me realize just how dependent on a single company I'd become and how little recourse I might have if that company cut me off. This was particularly troubling given how Kakfaesque Google's "support" is. So now my eggs are strewn around in several independent baskets and I intend to keep it that way.
Some postings on how people distribute their eggs and into what baskets would be interesting.
i looked around for a different provider. the best i found was http://www.runbox.com/ - it wasn't as good, but it was the closest (the main feature missing was tags; their support was very good).
but in the end i ended up handling email myself (on a linux box). it's very much not the equivalent, in that i use a console client (mutt). but the part that i most needed - search - works well using mairix http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/ (very fast, flexible command line tool for searching maildirs).
unfortunately this doesn't generalise well - i can't imagine most people would be as happy using command line/curses based tools or configuring their own email services.