As a Google Apps user, I'm still pissed that I don't have access.
The crappy treatment given to Google Apps users makes me wonder if Google has some data suggesting that we are less likely to click on ads.
New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
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Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#12Google+ is better than Facebook for lots of reasons except for one important thing - nobody's on it and they're still using Facebook. I would much prefer to use Google+, I prefer the interface, I like the Circles idea - everything sort of feels cleaner. But I can't convince any of my non-geek friends to join. They just don't see the point.
For a lot of my 'non-geek' friends, the years of photos, connections, groups, etc makes the cost of switching too high. For many, the idea of getting their photos out of Facebook is simply too daunting to consider. They're happy to maintain a LinkedIn though, as that's seen as a 'different thing': for business.
Why do you need to get photos out of Facebook? Can't you just put a link on your Google+ profile?
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#13Google+ is better than Facebook for lots of reasons except for one important thing - nobody's on it and they're still using Facebook. I would much prefer to use Google+, I prefer the interface, I like the Circles idea - everything sort of feels cleaner. But I can't convince any of my non-geek friends to join. They just don't see the point.
For me it is the same, except swap facebook for twitter.
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#14This is such an utterly meaningless number. Of course there was a big amount of public posts when it was fresh. Of course it was a hype. This says nothing about the long term.
Also why would public posts say much about a social network. I would imagine that Facebook's percental amount of public posts would go down in comparison to private posts. Does not mean anything.
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#15The fatal mistake was having it invite/beta-only at the beginning. Google has enough experience scaling now that they shouldn't have needed to do that. I suspect that they lost a vast number of people with that and thereby a lot of "test" nesting posts (which would have got everyone feeling that everyone else is there rather than it being a ghost town).
They probably found the social network analysis from the Gmail sign-ups (knowing who recommends to who) to be useful. However the difference between Gmail and Google+ is that Gmail is inter-operable with other networks via a standard protocol, with social networking that is not the case and they should have gone for as many sign-ups as possible.
All that said, they have a higher number of people per unit of time signing up than Facebook did when they started so it will take years for it all to shake out. Facebook also used exclusive/slow signups, but that was linked to university prestige/tribalism/rolling fad rather than just an apparently random process.
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#16Am I the only one who is a bit disappointed with the slow speed of development of G+? When it launched a lot of users were quick to point out some of the larger issues they were having, and as of yet not much has been done to fix them.
Have a look at their what's new page: http://www.google.com/support/profiles/bin/static.py?hl=en&#... - mostly rather small tweaks, nothing yet that improves their circles concept (e.g. allow us to define which circles show up in our default feed).
Also, with regard to their new product 'huddles'; why haven't they integrated this with google talk? A lot of my friends use google talk, practically none of them use huddles. So instead of improving the groupchat on google talk (and maybe just release an iphone app already!) they roll out this new product that locks out desktop users. Anyone care to explain to me why they might have gone this route?
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#17I used the hell out of it. Every day. And then the Real Name debacle happened. And I thought, "There's no way Google would screw this up. They'll retract any day now." And here we are today. Early this week, I decided that was it. They obviously aren't going to see sense, and I can't risk losing my account. So I've stopped posting. I don't even check it, except when someone replies to something I've already posted. I…
I went one step further and killed my account last week.
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about that. How many people have "signed up" and are essentially transmitting their identity to google every time they search? Even if you never use Google+ anymore, they've still got the browsing habits of the internet cognoscenti until people stop using their gmail and clear their cookies.
Didn't that already happen with any other Google service, like GMail or Google Docs? Log in, Google can track you.
Yes, but knowing the habits of "somename2000@gmail.com" is a lot less useful than knowing the habits of "John Doe, Vice President at Acme Computing"
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#19I used the hell out of it. Every day. And then the Real Name debacle happened. And I thought, "There's no way Google would screw this up. They'll retract any day now." And here we are today. Early this week, I decided that was it. They obviously aren't going to see sense, and I can't risk losing my account. So I've stopped posting. I don't even check it, except when someone replies to something I've already posted. I…
I went one step further and killed my account last week.
I went a step further still and divested myself entirely of Google services. The real name debacle made me realize just how dependent on a single company I'd become and how little recourse I might have if that company cut me off. This was particularly troubling given how Kakfaesque Google's "support" is.
So now my eggs are strewn around in several independent baskets and I intend to keep it that way.
Re: New Data: Google+ Public Posts Decrease by 41% Over Past Two Months
#20I used the hell out of it. Every day. And then the Real Name debacle happened. And I thought, "There's no way Google would screw this up. They'll retract any day now." And here we are today. Early this week, I decided that was it. They obviously aren't going to see sense, and I can't risk losing my account. So I've stopped posting. I don't even check it, except when someone replies to something I've already posted. I…
I went one step further and killed my account last week.
How exactly do you do that? I don't see a way to just remove G+.