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I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Fire the employee and hire someone off fiver to look at the script and explain it, and then get an intern to run it once a week. If the script isn't written, I now know I can hire a consultant to write the script once. Sounds like a win for me. Except that's not how it would play out in one of my orgs, I'd chat with the employee and find a solution, if they're not excited about ANY other work in my business at all, I…

"Fire the employee and hire someone off fiver to look at the script" This is exactly why the employee is incentivized not to tell his employer. whether he voluntarily discloses how the script works or not there is a pretty good chance he loses his job as soon as he reveals its existence even if management is thrilled about it and tells him what a great job he has done. "in one of my orgs, I'd chat with the employee a…

I understand the situation. I take real issue with them poster taking it upon themselves to make the decision it's win win, you don't, that's fine. :)

I don't not see your perspective, I do, I just don't agree they can say it's win win given the facts. Had they posted the whole thing and ended with "so I told the company and they laughed and now I get paid to do nothing, win win" I'd never have commented. I see why they can say it's a win all around, I just don't agree it truly is, in my opinion further negotiation should happen to test it, however for the reasons discussed exhaustively, that isn't advantageous so won't happen, so I don't think we can truly say it's a win-win, they are working on asymmetric information! :)

re: give up and become a paralegal, no: there may very well be other scripts to be written.

I'm going for a bike ride now.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Many subreddits are simply themed containers of creative writing. With all the media attention the AntiWork subreddit has gotten lately that brings more karma farmers and therefore more fiction. It's an entertaining read, but not likely true.

It might be true, or not.

I worked as an overnight computer operator years ago, and could easily have replaced myself with a batch script, except for a couple manual tasks that I could have done either at the beginning or end of my shift. I didn't do that, because I enjoyed going to work and being able to work on my hobbies while being paid. The company didn't do it largely out of ineptitude. They'd say they wanted a warm body there in case something went wrong, but one of us was always on-call anyway, even with another of us actually there; no reason the system couldn't just alert the on-call person.

One of our overnight operators worked a second job during his shift. He'd fire up a batch of jobs, go work elsewhere, come back on his lunch break and fire up another batch of jobs, go finish his shift elsewhere, then come back and fire off the last batch of jobs and be there when people started coming for work in the morning. He got caught because he was the only one of us who was always a little behind in his work; so they watched the cameras. When confronted, he admitted it. If he'd have automated the stuff, he'd have gotten away with it for a lot longer.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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This story is a pretty accurate fable for the pointlessness of the modern economy and its inability to provide real value to anyone. Man spends all day playing video games, because he automated his largely superfluous job at a law firm which itself likely only exists to deal with bureaucratic or unnecessary cases (assuming this is true, as they have a single absent IT person who handles their entire infrastructure.)…

He is not paid just to transfer files. He is paid to be responsible for the files being transferred. It's not quite the same thing.

This. He’s being paid to be responsible for the system. If he can do that successfully a few minutes a day. Cool. If his employer still sees value. It’s all good.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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There's a guy named Josh Fluke on YouTube who may qualify as antiwork to you. I find him very very reasonable and a bit dangerous for pulling off the wool over the young generation's eyes. I mean dangerous for the corporate and the myths corporations have built to lure and abuse workers.

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It’s anti-work, not anti-money.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Ugh that subreddit is just a cesspool. Most of the stories are fake and it attracts the bottom feeders of society. People need work to feel fulfilled. I get that a corporate job may not meet that demand but this idea that you can just eschew any work and be mentally ok isn't true.

"People need work to feel fulfilled." I never thought I'd see Stockholm syndrome in the wild.

They do. You do, I do, everyone does.

You're maliciously interpreting OP to imply that "slaving over a hot keyboard" is the only way to feel fulfilled.

Whether you are an employee, company owner, gardener, woodworker, whatever you are being fulfilled by "working". Applying yourself willfully and deliberately to a problem. If you are not being fulfilled you find something else. Or, like most people, you realize working for someone won't be fulfilling, so you instead seek fulfillment in work that you enjoy - such as your hobbies.

This equating of employment with slavery by the /r/antiwork types is why the subreddit is quickly becoming the butt of every joke. Yes, it's not uncommon your profession is unfulfilling. Most well adjusted people derive fulfillment from work outside of their profession.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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It was literally developed for them. He even explains that he has no intention of selling it because it is pretty much custom to the one place.

There are some interesting corner cases. For instance say he purchased the script from a third party? Is that different than if he wrote it on his off hours?

The problem here is intent. His intention was to write a script for his job.

He can't hire himself to do his own job. Which is what he would effectively be doing by claiming he wrote it "off hours". The very act of writing that script put him "on hours". Now, was it unpaid work? That's a different story. Although since he's also technically not doing work during work hours, one could call it a wash.

If he bought the script, then the company likely needs to reimburse him the cost of that, because its materials for the job. But he wouldn't want to make that request, because then the jig is up.

But then again, we aren't playing "what ifs". There are concrete elements to his story. He did write the script. It is explicitly for this company. It won't work for any other company without large modifications. The non-portability and exclusivity of this script means it was written for the express purpose of doing this thing for this company.

And let's be completely fair here, he cobbled this thing together from StackOverflow snippets. If he's ever found out and fired, even if he takes his script, they're probably looking at a day or two to replicate this work.

The real question for him is would it be worth it? The firm would be minimally affected and could, in turn, make things incredibly difficult for him. This is a law firm. This is what they do. The cost of suing him is negligible, because they already do so much of the work normally. We're really talking about the additional court and filing fees. Whereas, he'd have to retain a lawyer himself. Who would then bill him for all the work they'd do.

Consider, they were paying him $90k to copy files. They have that kind of money to throw at the problem. Do you really want to become a problem?

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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post #251

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"Fire the employee and hire someone off fiver to look at the script" This is exactly why the employee is incentivized not to tell his employer. whether he voluntarily discloses how the script works or not there is a pretty good chance he loses his job as soon as he reveals its existence even if management is thrilled about it and tells him what a great job he has done. "in one of my orgs, I'd chat with the employee a…

I understand the situation. I take real issue with them poster taking it upon themselves to make the decision it's win win, you don't, that's fine. :) I don't not see your perspective, I do, I just don't agree they can say it's win win given the facts. Had they posted the whole thing and ended with "so I told the company and they laughed and now I get paid to do nothing, win win" I'd never have commented. I see why t…

Fair enough, I hope you have a good ride. Appreciated the conversation. All the best.
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