Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

Post by lrem » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 1:18 PM UTC

jeroenhd wrote: post #72

frockington1 wrote: post #44

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So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth

You can use MS Office without putting everything on the cloud. Excel doesn't need to go, and you can still use Excel online for calculations that don't include personal information, which should suffice for most businesses. Just don't upload that CSV containing all of your customers to Microsoft, that shouldn't be too hard.

Post by Kbelicius » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 1:19 PM UTC

d1sxeyes wrote: post #87

ascar wrote: post #17

As far as I understand it, it's not Google Analytics per se that is illegal, but the data transfer to the US. If Google Analytics would use servers on European ground it should be fine. Or would that still violate GDPR as Google as an American company can still be coerced to give access to data stored on their servers outside the US? But I can't imagine that to be the case, as it would effectively mean that any busin…

From the Schrems II judgment: > Where the controller or a processor established in the European Union is not able to take adequate additional measures to guarantee such protection, the controller or processor or, failing that, the competent supervisory authority, are required to suspend or end the transfer of personal data to the third country concerned. It would seem as though any EU company that can be compelled to…

Post by sjogress » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

frockington1 wrote: post #51

znpy wrote: post #42

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If one stops and thinks about this point of view, most of the services used globally are under US jurisdiction... Which is less than ideal.

Can you think of a good alternative other than outlawing Microsoft 365? I want these services to be spread out however this particular idea would make the EU even more sluggish than it already is

Post by geewee » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

denton-scratch wrote: post #103

vman81 wrote: post #70

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You are free to share any data with Google that you wish. Google is however not free to take said data from users without explicit consent.

Not correct. You are not free to share PII with Google (or anyone in the USA).

Post by Tmpod » Wed, Jan 19, 2022, 1:20 PM UTC

msh wrote: post #88

ognarb wrote: post #82

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Nextcloud would be a solid European alternative for office365. It's a file sync, groupware, office and xhat solution all in one. It's open source, self hostable and has enterprise support. Disclaimer: I work at Nextcloud so I'm a bit biased

Its not a managed service so its not a direct alternative.