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This is not about downloading content, it's about uploading content.
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As far as I'm concerned you're free to send whatever data you like to the googleanalytics API. In fact I encourage it.
Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
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#62The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
> You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
How would Excel being run locally, with its work product being emailed back and forth, be impacted by this?
Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
#63Where can i see an official statement of this? The linked website seems dubious…
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#64I guess Plausible.io and similar are going to be drowning in cash in the next few months.
Looks great! But I feel that $9/month (up to 10k views) is a bit much for my personal website... I pay that much to Google now, but I get a whole suite of tools besides analyticsm, like email addresses (for my whole family under our surname as a domain, which is cool), my own domain (via GogoDaddy, but I got that via Google and pay Google only) and all the small business office tools they offer (though I think those are free?).
Are the any alternatives that offer the same kind of thing as Google?
Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
#65The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
Why not now force the EU to heavily invest in libreoffice so that it becomes a drop replacement to excel? I'm sure the European union can spare some euros to make it possible and this isn't even a utopian dream that can't be achieved. It just needs a good push
Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
#66The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
Is Microsoft no longer making a desktop version of their office suite?
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Libertarianism is so silly. "My freedom to live would be best served if there weren't politicians micromanaging other people's right to murder me". It's like a parody.
Libertarianism is definitely against murder. And quite a few libertarians believe that the FDA and EPA do too much to protect corporations from lawsuits, basically, if it meets their guidelines doesn't matter if it kills you, the company is protected. Absurd reductionism isn't helpful.
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This is not about downloading content, it's about uploading content.
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It's absolutely not the same. You're not getting any personal info about google business secrets or employees in exchange.
As for the why, while you might want to share your data with the US agencies and want to have a choice, there are millions of people who don't want to, and didn't get a say before. Today, you're simply on the side which lost the battle.