The article seems to suggest that it's declared illegal in Austria. Does this somehow apply to the whole EU then?
such individual court decisions are usually a precursor to what will be implemented EU-wide
Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understood it, data location is not even the problem, but the US CLOUD Act, that allows their authorities to request data from US companies no matter where it is stored. So even if Google Analytics would store data from EU citizens in Europe, they would still violate GDPR, because US authorities can access the data without the users consent.
So they set up an EU subsidiary that's independent enough for CLOUD Act to not apply. Problem solved.
If there is oversight from the US (i.e. it is still the owner), this is not possible.
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#103Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
#104I think it's time to make good backups of some google accounts.
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#105It's time for EU services to shine.
Based on the results of GDPR, it'll probably just result in more annoying sites that users will avoid due to all of the pop up banners. Hopefully I'm wrong, I wish there was strong competition from Europe
At least that is what I'm hoping for, however unrealistic it might be.
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#106The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
They haven't shined in 25 years. We will just be forced to use inferior products.
Ahah, of course during a period of time. Look at DuckDuckGo https://duckduckgo.com/traffic they benefited a lot from the changes imposed on their competitors.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth
Why not now force the EU to heavily invest in libreoffice so that it becomes a drop replacement to excel? I'm sure the European union can spare some euros to make it possible and this isn't even a utopian dream that can't be achieved. It just needs a good push
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#109What about people viewing from the EU?
All very confusing.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Privacy law in the EU is harmonized.
> Privacy law in the EU is harmonized In theory. Reality is quite far from that, as anyone on the ground can attest.